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Author Topic:   Latent racism in the republican party?
Taz
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Message 1 of 45 (518769)
08-08-2009 12:42 AM


Nowadays, we live in a time when racism has been tabooed by mainstream society at large. It's been accepted as truth that racism is evil. No sane person would admit he's a racist and still expects to have some kind of political future, or any career future for that matter. I've attended meetings held by white supremacist groups such as the KKK and the message that I got from those meetings is they're not racist and that they only wanted to keep the races separate. So, even those hate groups are starting to disassociate themselves with racism.
That said, some things have been happening lately that have made the latent racism within the republican ranks a little more obvious than usual. Those town hall meetings where people are shouting "I want my country back", people accusing Obama as a terrorist, and people using Obama's middle name against him are some of the examples of this latent racism that are coming out to light because of recent events. Watch this vid clip to see what I mean.
He should have stuck with Barry? Yes, this was slip of the tongue. But you know what, the only reason we have slips of tongue is because we use the words in our everyday language. The slipping of the tongue happens when we notice someone is around that we would offend with the language and therefore consciously try to not use the language.
What shocks me about recent events is the country is actually tolerating this crap from the conservatives. The birthers movement, the accusations that Obama is not a christian, the accusations that Obama was born in Kenya, the blatant mischaracterization of Obama's health care reform plans, the editing of the video of Obama's grandmother making her to sound like she said Obama is a Kenyan citizen, etc. are all very disturbing to me.
When this all started, I could understand that this was just normal politics. But it's starting to go beyond normal politics. I'm not even sure if it's even latent racism anymore. It's starting to look to me like blatant racism.
So, the question again. Why is the country tolerating this crap?

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Taz
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Message 4 of 45 (518880)
08-09-2009 3:46 AM


Watch the following vids. When I saw these during the election period, i was simply astonished that McCain and Palin actually tolerated this crap from their own crowd.
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Taz
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Message 24 of 45 (520870)
08-24-2009 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Hyroglyphx
08-24-2009 12:35 PM


Re: The intolerance of tolerance
Hyroglyphx writes:
Because it's a free country. In a free society you should be allowed to be a latent or blatant racist if you want. Let them suffer the adverse consequences for their actions and/or beliefs. So long as it doesn't infringe upon another persons freedom, let them be miserable racists.
That's the funny thing about the tolerance and intolerance. We're quick to point out others intolerances, but never seem to remember that their idea of "tolerance" ends up being, by the very nature of it, intolerant of countering views.
You misunderstood my point.
I can confidently say that I am one of the biggest advocates of free speech that I know of. I fully support people's right to say "nigger" anytime they want. I fully support people's right to say "chink" anytime they want.
But it's no longer fashionable to admit one as a racist or bigot. I remember attending a lecture by the KKK. Even the KKK swear up and down they're not racist or bigot. All they wanted to do, or so they claimed, was to keep the races separate just like the way god intended.
Do you understand me? These are obvious racists. And yet, they were voted into office. At their rallies, racists freely spouted racist speeches.
If the KKK are running a campaign to distant themselves from the racist image and the people at McCain and Palin rallies yelled out hate speeches, what does that tell you about the attitude of the country as a whole for ignoring something like that?

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Taz
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Message 27 of 45 (520879)
08-24-2009 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Hyroglyphx
08-24-2009 4:47 PM


Re: The intolerance of tolerance
Hyroglyphx writes:
Who's ignoring it? Or if anyone is ignoring it, it's because it's old and worn out news. Everyone knows that the KKK is a racist organization, so it's no mystery what they talk about in their rallies. The masses no longer pay attention to the KKK because they are a dying organization who simply don't have the power they once had.
My apology. Apparently, I wasn't being clear enough. I wasn't talking about people ignoring the KKK. I was talking about people ignoring the racists that were the backbone of the McCain/Palin rallies.
Hyroglyphx writes:
Should that mean that ALL Democrats are "latent" racists and that ALL Republicans are tolerant?
Again, my apology for having not specifically not (intended double) used the word ALL. I do, however, accuse the republican party of silently encouraging the latent racism by not strongly and adamantly speak out against the racist crowds that have flocked to their support.

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Taz
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Message 33 of 45 (520909)
08-24-2009 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Hyroglyphx
08-24-2009 5:45 PM


Re: The intolerance of tolerance
Hyroglyphx writes:
How do you know that "racists" were/are the "backbone" of the McCain/Palin rallies? Aren't you yourself now in danger of the very thing you condemn? You are making an impromptu determination that the backbone of Republicans are comprised of inherent racists without having any way of actually knowing that beyond conjecture.
Hang on there. I said rallies, I didn't say the republican party itself.
McCain/Palin rallies attracted a lot of racists. In fact, some of these rallies seemed to have nothing but people yelling out vile racist speeches. The fact that neither McCain nor Palin... nor anyone else in the republican party stood up and condemned these vile outbursts.
Is the republican party racist? I don't know. May be, may be not. But they certainly did encourage racism through silence and enjoyed the support that came from it.
Are you not then making sweeping allegations and generalizing? Isn't that what racists do?
I did not make any sweeping allegations at all.
Let me boil it down to you. Do you or do you not agree that people were yelling out vile racist comments at McCain/Palin rallies? Do you not agree that not once did McCain nor Palin said anything to condemn these outbursts?
I'm curious, are you all for blatant racism and against latent racism?
Well, blatant racism is certainly a lot easier to point out. But in this day and age nobody, except for rednecks, is stupid enough to make it obvious that they're racist. In this day and age, racism and other forms of bigotry primarily exist in subtle forms like micro-agressionism and silently promoting rednecks' vile outbursts.
The first step toward treating a disease is recognizing that it's there.
Does Reverend Jeremiah Wright get a pass on his blatant racist views? Maybe it isn't really a matter of Republican or Democrats. Because both parties, by the sole fact that they are the two largest parties in the US, are on some level going to attract some racists. That's kind of unavoidable
You're seriously comparing what Wright said to "white folks" yelling out death to Obama and referring to him as a monkey? Is this the twilight zone where you can't recognize the difference?
If anything, Wright's attitude came from residual affects of segregation and other institutionalized racism in this country. White folks have absolutely no excuse to feel that way.

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