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tuffers
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Message 1 of 13 (521631)
08-28-2009 10:25 AM


I often hear this alleged creator called God referred to as a supernatural being.
What does supernatural actually mean? I imagine it means some kind of different state of nature, but I can’t picture what that can mean. Can we ever identify, explain or even imagine something that is truly supernatural?
If something created our universe in a different state of nature from its own, does that not make our universe the supernatural state, and the creator’s original state the natural one?
If this creator exists in a different state to us, how is it able to create and influence our universe, and without us being able to see it? Is there some kind of one-way filter between different states?
And why would any creator want to create our universe in a different state from its own? Surely it would be easier to create our universe in its own state, especially if it wanted us to see its work.
Too many questions already. I’ll leave it open to discussion.

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tuffers
Member (Idle past 5306 days)
Posts: 92
From: Norwich, UK
Joined: 07-20-2009


Message 11 of 13 (522017)
08-31-2009 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Jon
08-28-2009 1:13 PM


Re: What is Natural?
Hi Jon
Yes, I agree there is a problem defining "natural" and "supernatural", and we may be wasting our time even considering it. Just thought I'd give an opportunity to those who believe in supernatural beings to provide an explanation. Maybe it will at least make them think that they ought to know what supernatural actually means before they make claims to knowing of any supernatural beings.

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tuffers
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Message 13 of 13 (522087)
09-01-2009 5:27 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Blue Jay
08-31-2009 5:02 PM


Re: A conversation between Tuffers and a supernaturalist
Dear Bluejay
Thanks for your enlightenment.

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