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TOE and the Reasons for Doubt

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Peg
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Message 484 of 530 (537472)
11-28-2009 9:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 482 by NosyNed
11-28-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Removing bits
NosyNed writes:
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An irreducible complex thing can be created
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yes i know it can.
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11-29-2009 4:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 485 by NosyNed
11-28-2009 9:35 PM

Re: Nice quote mine...
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Rather that actually acknowledge the point made you actually resort to a quote mine? After all the discussion here at EvC about the dishonest use of such things in the creationist community this is the best you can do?
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A perfect example, thank you for it.
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well you set yourself up for it by using the word 'created'
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Peg
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11-29-2009 4:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 486 by RAZD
11-28-2009 10:14 PM

Re: cell reproduction
Razd writes:
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I think you are becoming more and more confused.
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Your skin (and other) cells are constantly reproducing in the same way that single cell eukaryote organisms reproduce. Skin cells are constantly dying and being replaced by new cells.
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no, i dont think i'm confused.
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I know living cells reproduce, no problem there. But in order for the cell to live at all, it needs all of its parts to do so.
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Peg
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11-29-2009 5:14 AM 		Reply to: Message 488 by cavediver
11-29-2009 3:36 AM

Re: Darwin about falsification
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Peg, in the scenario for abiogenesis I outlined for you, we saw proto-cells reproducing.
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ok i want to ask you a new question about the ocean where these proto-cells would have first formed
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If the organic soup really did cover the whole earth then surely some of its compounds would have been trapped in sedimentary rocks. I know you know a lot about rocks, so can i ask you if there is any evidence of these compounds left in the rocks?
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Peg
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11-30-2009 6:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 493 by DevilsAdvocate
11-29-2009 6:51 AM

Re: cell reproduction
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What an uneducated and ignorant claim. And what 'parts' would those be?
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i'm sure i dont need to explain to you or anyone else here that there are many parts to the cell that rely on each other in order for the cell to function.
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centrioles & mircrotubules are linked, Chromosomes,DNA & histones rely on each other to function. And ribosomes contain 55 separate protein molecules all of which are required for the cell to function properly. Im not even scraping the surface here obviously, but if you think its ignorant of me to claim that a cell cannot live without all the parts that make it function, then i'm happy to be ignorant.
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