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greyseal
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Message 430 of 530 (530900)
10-15-2009 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 428 by Percy
10-15-2009 10:02 AM


Re: Selection Pressures
Dawkins program illustrates that if instead the monkey keeps each correct letter of the previous line and only enters a random letter for those that are incorrect, in other words discarding the wrong letters and keeping the correct ones, that the monkey can produce the correct phrase in much, much less time, probably around 30 lines.
Before you go too far with that, remember that Dawkin's original program didn't do "locking" (i.e. it didn't specifically keep correct letters from being incorrect again) - it was even more random than that.
It simply found which offspring of any particular random sequence was "more correct" - in studying the original output still preserved (and by running the darn program) you can see for yourself that correct letters do become incorrect and fluctuate as the process continues.
Still, it is vastly quicker than the random-monkey-bashing odds.

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greyseal
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Message 441 of 530 (531151)
10-16-2009 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 435 by Kaichos Man
10-16-2009 7:56 AM


Re: Selection Pressures
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure which example you gave that you're talking about now.
Evolution itself doesn't have a "there", but Dawkin's program is a toy and doesn't simulate biological evolution.
It simulates and displays the power of random selection.
If you try to say evolution wants to create a crocoduck, or a teenage mutant ninja turtle, or that you should see pokemons in the real world, you are mistaken and you will get called on it.
If you try to say evolution can't get from a fly to a bat, you'll be told that no - it can't, and it doesn't need to.
Frankly, you appear to misunderstand the weasel program and what it means, still.
Sorry.

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