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NoNukes
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Message 54 of 149 (610799)
04-01-2011 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-01-2011 7:05 PM


Re: Relative Space in Linear, Flat and Absolute Time
Alfred writes:
In some frames of reference the purported Big Bang is yet to occur while in other frames, the mythical Big Crunch or Rip or whatever the version of the scenario is already long past. The universe is long dead since and it is yet to be born. It's just the news of it are long in coming to your particular lab.
Show us the math. Nothing else is going to be the least bit convincing.

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NoNukes
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Message 60 of 149 (610844)
04-02-2011 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-02-2011 6:45 AM


Re: Relative Space in Linear, Flat and Absolute Time
duplicate removed
Edited by NoNukes, : removed

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Message 61 of 149 (610845)
04-02-2011 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-02-2011 6:45 AM


Re: Relative Space in Linear, Flat and Absolute Time
Alfred Maddenstein writes:
How then you can explain that the millions of people who can read no maths are being so convinced of the validity of the Big Bang paradigm?
They believe others who can check the math? They are convinced by descriptions of observations that confirm the theory?
At present you have zero credibility. From you, rigorous proof is required

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NoNukes
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Message 64 of 149 (610876)
04-03-2011 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-03-2011 5:44 AM


Yawn
Alfred Maddenstein writes:
Ultimately again all that boils down to a massive trust in the others better judgement and being impressed by the numerous repetitions of confidence in that judgement expressed by those others while suspending any own scrutiny.
It does not depend much on trust anymore. Countless physics students have learned to follow the math. There are plenty of tutorials on the subject that allow even more people to grasp the basics. Some people do simply accept things without being able to check they math, but even those people can look for indicators that reliably point to quackery.
For example, I know where real science turns up first, and it is not in vanity published books or on web pages. In my experience, science promoted in that way is invariably ignorable.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

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NoNukes
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Message 99 of 149 (611286)
04-06-2011 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-06-2011 5:28 PM


Re: A general question for anyone
It would be a little easier to read your posts if you separated your paragraphs with a blank line. Just hit 'return' or whatever key you use to generate a line feed twice rather than just once.
Or don't. Your choice.
Alfred Maddenstein writes:
That theory has no physical impossibilities in its premises and it makes good predictions that are to be tested against nature.
The only good prediction is a tested prediction. A theory's fit with your own philosophy isn't much of a recommendation to others.
You need not be impressed or convinced. But surely you can see why you are finding lots of doubters.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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NoNukes
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Message 145 of 149 (613813)
04-27-2011 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-26-2011 1:10 AM


Re: Relativity
Alfred Maddenstein writes:
1) How do you mean? As I understand it, the theory clashes with the description of gravity on the solar scales as according to it most of the matter in the solar system is of the cold, dark and undetectable kind. Or is the Solar System an exception to the homogeneousness rule so unlike anywhere else the dark matter is absent in it? Or maybe the Milky Way is an exception?
This is wrong. The universe is clearly not homogeneous on a solar system, galaxy, or galactic cluster sized scale. Observationally, the effects of dark matter show up on a galactic scale scale but not on a solar system scale. This observation is not inconsistent with the scale on which the universe is thought to be homogeneous, i.e., somewhere beyond super cluster size.

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