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subbie
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Message 22 of 91 (558144)
04-30-2010 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Faith
04-30-2010 12:41 AM


No, I'd be telling him he needs to talk to an exorcist.
Maybe Richard Simmons?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 25 of 91 (558148)
04-30-2010 1:08 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Faith
04-30-2010 1:07 AM


Faith dear, anyone who purports to perform an exorcism is a charlatan.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 27 of 91 (558151)
04-30-2010 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
04-30-2010 1:10 AM


No, there have been some genuine ones
Well, maybe we should think about that then for all those times that Congress or the President does something unconstitutional, since the Supreme Court can't do anything about it.
In the early church, exorcisms were performed routinely as people became believers out of occultic backgrounds.
Burned some witches too, didn't they?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 30 of 91 (558154)
04-30-2010 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Faith
04-30-2010 1:19 AM


Oh, ok. We'll ignore that newfangled witch burning nonsense and stick with the old fashioned, tried and true nonsense. Mustn't rock the boat too much, eh?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 34 of 91 (558159)
04-30-2010 1:51 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Natural_Design
04-30-2010 1:46 AM


Oh and seeing as how I'm getting so much Hate...
You are getting no hate here. Sound advice? Yes. Bad advice? Certainly. Ridicule? Absolutely. But no hate. What is there to hate?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 45 of 91 (558277)
04-30-2010 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Faith
04-30-2010 12:54 PM


Re: Re Supernatural
I know, I must enjoy abuse or I wouldn't try to make them aware of reality.
All you have to do is present evidence. Not argument. Not apologetics. Not scripture. Evidence. Until you do that, you will nothing more than a target for mockery practice.
I guarantee you that the science types here are more receptive to evidence than the godbots.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 49 of 91 (558283)
04-30-2010 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Buzsaw
04-30-2010 2:30 PM


Re: Re Supernatural Evidence
The fact that you think there's been evidence of superior intelligence presented here says more about your intelligence than anything else.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 55 of 91 (558296)
04-30-2010 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Faith
04-30-2010 2:57 PM


Re: Re Supernatural
There's plenty of testimony for millions of things that you don't believe in. What standards do you use to decide whether to believe someone's testimony or not?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 58 of 91 (558300)
04-30-2010 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Coragyps
04-30-2010 3:06 PM


I can't imagine how difficult and painful that must have been for you.
I do hope everything turns out all right for you and for him.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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subbie
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Message 62 of 91 (558311)
04-30-2010 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Faith
04-30-2010 3:49 PM


Re: Re Supernatural
So you must believe in UFOs, ETs, leprechauns, Horus, Apollo, psychics, spoonbenders, mermaids, Bigfoot, etc.
Or, perhaps what you really mean by similarity of testimony is its similarity to the things that you already believe in. This is called confirmation bias.

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Message 67 of 91 (558318)
04-30-2010 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
04-30-2010 4:06 PM


Re: Re Supernatural
So, to summarize.
If anyone under any circumstances says they see something, you believe they actually see something. If what they say they see is inconsistent with your preconceived ideas, you simply attribute it to demons. The only basis for this attribution is because it's inconsistent with what you believe, the internal consistency of their reports or the level of their credibility has nothing to do with it. Your reinterpretation also has nothing to do with evidence that may or may not support their claims.
Do I have this accurate? If not, please explain where I misunderstand.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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