Evolution would've given us infrared eyesight

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Were it evolution based, an infrared cue of some sort would be of extreme benefit, even if it required significant evolutionary "capital" to get there, the reality is in the end it would be of much advantage.

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I believe that God gave man what was needed to operate here in this flesh. We don't need infrared because he provided us with a place to live and everything we needed to survive here.

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Holy cognitive dissonance, Batman! You gave me a mild case of whiplash by including these two completely inconsistent statements in the space of one post. Fortunately for me, my years of dealing with cdesign proponentist meanderings prepared me for such an event.Anyone want to propose an over-under for how long it will take Rick to see the inconsistency?

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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My original point was that ToE should've produced IR vision - something I believe very strongly given the fact that the world is dark about 50% of the time. The fact that we don't have it is my suggestion that ToE is wrong.

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And several people here have pointed out that the implication of your argument is that your intelligent designer didn't create us with something that you think we should have. What does that say about your designer?

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It's not clear in the least. You need to explain why we would need infra red vision if the ToE is true and why we don't need it if we were created. There's only one planet, only one environment. Either we need it or we don't. How we got here is irrelevant to the question of what we need while we're here.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Science is what science is. It is man's attempt to understand the universe. Creationists are not prideful or arrogant, nor ignorant, when they choose to accept by faith that what God has revealed to man through the Holy Bible is accurate. I went to college majoring in physics and math. I loved science, still do. But God has revealed something to me which I accept on faith.

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It may appear to us, our science, and even our reason that a particular event indicates a 4.5 billion year old Earth, or that evolution occurred, or that we know where the stars are or how the moon orbits. We may be able to come up with formulas that describe everything, models which predict and mimic real-world observations, and we can approach perfection in what we see. But, that still doesn't make us right.

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So, in essence, what you're saying is that no amount of evidence will ever convince you of anything that you think is inconsistent with what you think the bible says.If in fact that is the case, there's really no reason for anyone here to engage you. People are here because they believe in science, and they believe in our ability to accurately perceive the world around us and come to rational conclusions about the world based on that evidence. Any discussion with you about science would make less sense than discussing music with a deaf person.

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If the exercise is for me to go through and understand everything evolutionists do so that I might be able to fully assimilate their meaning, then I could do that. I could learn all that is learnable, applying the mental faculties God gave me toward perfecting the theory of the system ... but that would not change the fact that I still accept on faith what God has said.

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Then I'm truly hard-pressed to understand what you're doing here. It's clear to anyone who knows anything about the ToE that you know nothing about it. You've loudly trumpeted your lack of interest in learning about it. All of this combines to create a perfect storm of us wasting our time.Your creator gave you a mind for a reason, presumably. It seems to me that the best way for you to acknowledge that gift is to use it. But, certainly you know your god better than I do. If you think he's happy for you to run around in ignorance, nobody here is going to force feed you. However, I daresay there are very few other folk interested in a god whose purpose is, apparently, to lord over uneducated sheep.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Ah! We're learning more about the nature of your problem.

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I believe the fact that we have numerous cases of bonafide precognition indicates there is a creator, and that He really is in control - guiding and directing.

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There has never, ever, been one single, verified instance of precognition.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat