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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Ah, priori: as in "not supported by fact" and "without observed facts" and in "without supporting evidence".
Gottcha. That makes sense. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Ah, priori: as in "not supported by fact" and "without observed facts" and in "without supporting evidence". It connotes more than what you've cited: Webster Online Dictionary:
presupposed by experience 2a : being without examination or analysis : presumptive b : formed or conceived beforehand Latin, literally, from the former BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1512 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I'm fairly certain that what you're talking about is a Latin phrase, a priori. Of course, if that is what you mean, your point is simply wrong. What you claim to be an a priori belief of science is in fact largely supported by evidence, and where the evidence indicates otherwise, is discarded.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Thanks for adding those definitions Buz.
quote: Note: "being without examination or analysis; presumptive; formed or conceived beforehand." None of the definitions are related to what science does. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2341 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.7 |
The priori of the....
It isn't a noun Buz. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Thanks folks. I've checked around on the usage of the term in science and I see I've miss-applied the term. I'll scrap it until I get a better handle on it's application.
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes: How? Why is it opinion? Is there any evidence of some directed force? I didn't claim that there was. There is also no evidence that there isn't. Whether there is or isn't is as I said just opinion.
jar writes: No, it is observation. We see things becoming more complex and less complex. No directionality. The earth evolved from the basic elements and life evolved to where we are today. That sure looks like directionality to me.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
GDR writes: jar writes: No, it is observation. We see things becoming more complex and less complex. No directionality. The earth evolved from the basic elements and life evolved to where we are today. That sure looks like directionality to me. And things are also moving from more complex to less complex. Uranium decays to lead. If you are simply selecting out those things that seem to support YOUR desired outcome, what is that called? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes: And things are also moving from more complex to less complex. Uranium decays to lead. And life forms have evolved from less complex to more complex.
jar writes: If you are simply selecting out those things that seem to support YOUR desired outcome, what is that called? I don't have desired outcome. You had made the following assertion.
jar writes: First, evolution is simply change over time. Second, it is NOT directed. Third there is no directionality. I merely pointed out that your view that evolution is not directed is just opinion. (Presumably your desired outcome) It was you that made the assertion. There is no scientific evidence either way.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
GDR writes: jar writes: And things are also moving from more complex to less complex. Uranium decays to lead. And life forms have evolved from less complex to more complex. And from more complex to less complex.
GDR writes: jar writes: If you are simply selecting out those things that seem to support YOUR desired outcome, what is that called? I don't have desired outcome. You had made the following assertion.
jar writes: First, evolution is simply change over time. Second, it is NOT directed. Third there is no directionality. I merely pointed out that your view that evolution is not directed is just opinion. (Presumably your desired outcome) It was you that made the assertion. There is no scientific evidence either way. Directed as in direction. There is scientific evidence that it is the result of mutation (including variations) filtered by Natural Selection. There is NO evidence for some intervention force. But still, what does any of this have to do with determining what is life? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes:
I agree
There is scientific evidence that it is the result of mutation (including variations) filtered by Natural Selection. jar writes: There is NO evidence for some intervention force. And again, there is no evidence that there isn't. It is opinion.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
HUH?
There is evidence for one and no evidence for the other. But again, what does that have to do with the question "What is life"? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes: There is evidence for one and no evidence for the other. What is the evidence that evolution guided by natural selection isn't directed?
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That what we see can be explained without the necessity of some critter meddling and no evidence of even a model for how the meddler might intervene.
But again, what does that have to do with the question "What is life"? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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GDR Member Posts: 6223 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
jar writes: That what we see can be explained without the necessity of some critter meddling and no evidence of even a model for how the meddler might intervene. That isn't evidence for some critter, as you like to put it, not meddling. It is your opinion.
jar writes: But again, what does that have to do with the question "What is life"? My posts have been in response to what you wrote so I should be asking the question of you. However, there were statements made at the beginning by others such as the first one that said: quote: which is obviously trying to make the materialistic case, and that seemed to be accepted as answering the question. My only point is that you made a statement that was intended to be read as fact for which you have no evidence and is strictly your opinion.
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