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It's the ninth letter of the alphabet.Question settled I would be careful with that one. "Human" is not defined with the precision of mathematics. That one seems even more iffy. Do I, or do I not count a bee as having awareness? Do I, or do I not count an amoeba as having awareness? So there you were in [msg=-11,14691,-350] pointing out the importance of precise definitions, and now you are using a vague predicate in a quantifier which attempts to appear precise. I am not at all perplexed by that. Nor am I perplexed by my own self-awareness. I am, however, perplexed by my inability to find a way of explaining to other my lack of perplexity. Yes, I think I have at least half a clue as to what you are on about. However, I haven't worked out how to give others my thoughts on the issues. Actually, no, we are not. That you think we are might hint at why you find it so perplexing.Hmm. After reading this, you might be even more perplexed than you were at the beginning.

Yes, that can be confusing. I have occasionally been accused of being a dualist. As I recall, it was for saying things such as "mathematics is abstract." I take those accusations with a grain of salt.Consciousness researchers seem to be wanting a reductionist account of the subjective in terms of the objective. I think it very unlikely that such a reduction is possible.The idea of uploading minds to computers is surely impossible (perhaps "absurd" is a better term). I am skeptical of teleportation, though I cannot rule it out as a theoretical possibility.Norbert Wiener, with his work on Cybernetics, was probably closer than are modern AI researchers and cognitive scientists.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think that is what cavediver was talking about.I think he is saying that, from the point of view of his awareness, everything that exists only exists as an aspect of his awareness. So when he says "There has never been a time nor will there ever be a time when my awareness does not exist" he is saying that he has no awareness of a time when he had no awareness, and he does not believe that he will ever have an awareness of a time when he has no awareness.It seems to me that cavediver wasn't talking about the past or the future (as we usually conceive of them) but was talking about the peculiar nature of awareness itself.And now a comment about this post. It might seem that I am trying to explain cavediver to you. However, I'm sure he can do that himself. So what I am really doing is saying something about my take on the OP, so that cavediver can tear it to shreds if I got it wrong. That sort of dialog is what is needed when we try to talk about difficult issues for which words do not suffice.