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anglagard
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Message 10 of 36 (584033)
09-29-2010 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Dr Adequate
09-29-2010 8:43 PM


How About A Trifecta Echo
To put gene substitution in a less mathematical sense for the math challenged (regardless of how simple the concept is presented in a few previous posts) how about a real life example?
Consider the spotted moth in England. Evolution favored lighter varieties before burning coal and prior to the time it covered all trees in soot. Then after burning a lot of coal it favors darker varieties to blend in with the soot covered trees. Suddenly environmental regulation reduces the burning of coal and the moths respond to their environmental stress by becoming lighter once again.
Where is the loss of genetic information? If you take away, then add the same back, how is that a loss?
(not original, someone here mentioned that very thing a few years back - please feel free to step up so I may give you full credit)
Also if the experiment is continued for an infinite amount of time would that result in the moths eventually having no genetic information under the always loss scenario. How would they exist with no genes?
Admittedly less directly mathematical but a reasonable real-life example.
Edited by anglagard, : Had to change the last two to a few previous, people here must be drinking red bull mixed with vodka as the young are wont to do.
Edited by anglagard, : get rid of extraneous 'last two,' damn you people are fast once you find a bone

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 865 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 23 of 36 (584058)
09-30-2010 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by seanfhear
09-30-2010 12:01 AM


Re: Welcome
A belated welcome as well, love the sig.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 27 of 36 (584084)
09-30-2010 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by caffeine
09-30-2010 6:41 AM


Re: How About A Trifecta Echo
Maybe so, maybe not - Phish

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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