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Phat
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Message 34 of 144 (590008)
11-05-2010 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Dr Adequate
11-05-2010 12:16 PM


Where? When? How?
quote:
When was the Golden Age of Christianity?
Christianity is only as good as the people who believe in it. Without believers who are actively professing and DOING something, the religion itself is dead. For me, the golden age in my life was when I felt special. Part of a movement of change, initiated by a people with special abilities.
Later, having looked back, I saw that I had been duped. But to this day, I still believe that I experienced something unique. I don't wish to throw away the idea that I can effect change. I'm just afraid to sacrifice.
Also, jar and I discuss Christianity quite a bit, and I get stuck when the possibility is brought up that I as a human am responsible to DO something for the good of humanity, without Gods help.(since He allegedly already gave me what I need)
Quite honestly, whats so special and powerful about that?

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Phat
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Message 123 of 144 (590823)
11-09-2010 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by jar
11-09-2010 8:51 PM


Re: Decline Of The Golden Age
Dawn Bertot writes:
Today's reality is just like the one back then, the VAST majority of people were simply hard working, worshiping people.
Most people do not condone many of the actions of our government in an overt fashion, yet I will admit that often, we ignore the actions since we believe that they are necessary for our survival, even if they hurt other cultures or infringe on their rights.
jar writes:
The 1800 would be the period when the US, after signing a Treaty with the Kingdom of Hawaii invaded it and over threw the monarch. It would be the period of the Spanish American War when we invaded and took Puerto Rico. It would be when the US invaded Mexico and forced them to accept a treaty that gave the US what is now Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California, Utah and parts of Colorado. It would be the period of the Indian Wars where the US not only took land from the Native Americans by force but also desecrated their Holy Places (which we continue to do today) but also outlawed and suppressed their religions and cultural practices.
I can't deny that this happened. Americans of that time (or this time) may argue that the Indians resisted moving out of the way, and we had to look out for our own first. This behavior of humanity throughout the ages is not limited to America alone, though because we became an empire, we often were aggressive in order to do so.
crashfrog writes:
The Constitution offers no right to be a racist, nor to engage in discrimination. The freedom to infringe on the freedom of others to move freely, engage in business, and work for a living is not a freedom guaranteed by the Constitution, regardless of your racist desires. The Civil Rights Act expanded freedom - it did not contract it. There's no such freedom as "the right to discriminate."
I often wonder whether the whole world could live under the U.S. constitution without exploiting or taking advantage of some class of people. (the stupid, maybe? )
I support my union precisely because they limit the power of the company to do what it wants with its money and wages.
Ringo writes:
There's nothing new under the sun. There were never any good old days.
It just seems that way for those of us born in the late fifties in the U.S. Its hard for me to accept the idea that God never promised me a bigger rose garden than anyone else.
The patriotism and freedom that the US has, coupled with the fact that we as a nation have at times been evil in order to secure, is a fact. Jar thinks that all of us are responsible. If so, we never really have been a Christian nation. We gave out of our abundance at times, yet never gave our second cloak away. If we are to be judged, I hope that the judge is merciful.

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