Where the hell did the topic go? I thought you wanted to discuss the "meaning" of the genetic code. Do you accept that DNA translation involves no semantic understanding on the part of the cell, now?
WS-JW writes:
Your missing the point. It has everything to do with evolution as evolution is a theory and how life began and developed. evolution claims the first primitive cell... if there are such things as "primitive" cells.
Using the rules of syntax and grammar it may be possible to arrange these words into meaningful sentences. But maybe not.
WS-JW writes:
Anything that can extract energy from it's environment and then have the blueprint to replicate itself is not primitive. And won't arise by chance. you try it.
That might be why nobody thinks such entities arose by chance. My working hypothesis is that they arose through an evolutionary process, not by chance. What is your hypothesis - that they arose through supernatural intervention? Why is that more likely or better in explaining the origin of the cell than chance, exactly?
WS-JW writes:
And why ever they say that natural selection seperates the good from the bad I don't know... in science you find the good stuff breaks down ever so quickly and the bad bits you can't get rid of.
What science? What good stuff? Can't things that break down rapidly be separated? Why not?
WS-JW writes:
We claim we are educated
I don't think I'd exactly claim that
we are educated...
WS-JW writes:
The idea that different sexes arose by chance
What a silly idea. Whose is it?
WS-JW writes:
and that by eating a few potatoes a woman can churn out a baby with all the info on how to do so on the size of a pin head. The sperm. And a self healing body with a brain that does a supreme diagnosis of whats wrong if you get a cut or something like that. If you think long enough on these things and
stop telling yourself that the design we see is an illusion. We can come to only one logical explanation.
Please, please don't speak for me. I have never claimed to see design in nature. I don't see it. Why don't you give me an example of something that looks designed, and tell me which of its features are diagnostic of design? I don't agree with Dawkins' claim that we see "illusory" design. Personally, I don't see any kind of design.
WS-JW writes:
The failed evolution experiments and getting life out by chance support this also. Oh but it only happened once they say over billions of years. Well anything that can't be repeated, is not science.
Who are you to say that the origin of life occurred only once? There is no reason to think that we may not find independent origins of life on other planets, nor that we may not one day create some kind of life in the lab. And none of that is relevant to the sciences of chemistry and physics that focus on questions of the origin of life - and which conduct repeatable experiments on the subject despite your insistence that they cannot do so. The Urey-Miller experiment, even if you were correct in finding that it did not support a natural origin of life, is one example of such a repeatable experiment.