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Author Topic:   Our Socioeconomic Position is at Risk
Taq
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Message 7 of 197 (608205)
03-09-2011 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
03-06-2011 8:46 AM


Re: Comments?
Does anyone else feel as if the middle class in the united States is essentially between a rock and a hard place? In other words, the wealthy keep us down, while the competitive poor are always nipping at our heels, forcing us to scramble ever more to maintain our position in life.
I have a feeling that these things will balance out. Because of economic success in the US in the last century our goods have increased in price to the point that they are no longer competitive. When the rest of the world catches up (e.g. China) our goods will be competitive again and drive the economy.
For example, when the dollar was stroger than the yen it made more sense to completely build cars in Japan and pay the tariff. Now that the Japanese economy has surpassed our own it is cheaper to ship incomplete assemblies for the cheaper tariff and have cheaper labor complete the assembly in the US.

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Message 17 of 197 (608247)
03-09-2011 3:31 PM
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03-09-2011 2:18 PM


The world, particularly the US is exactly how it is because the people voted to make it the way that it is.
So how did you vote on the latest budget proposals?

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Message 19 of 197 (608252)
03-09-2011 3:41 PM
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03-09-2011 3:38 PM


By voting for the Representatives.
Which is not the same as voting on the bills themselves. When you vote for representation you are only hoping that they vote in your best interest. There is no guarantee. Also, in the US system those who are willing to donate large sums of money towards a campaign have more of a voice in the system after elections than those who do not.

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Message 26 of 197 (608263)
03-09-2011 4:18 PM
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03-09-2011 3:59 PM


But it is the system that we decided to put in place.
To be more specific, it is the system we inherited.
And again, the fact that money buys votes is what the voters decided to allow.
I never voted on that. I would happily vote for a federal system where money is doled out equally to candidates and no outside money is allowed. I will probably never be allowed to vote on such a bill, and I really doubt that any elected official would ever promote or vote on such a bill.

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Message 30 of 197 (608273)
03-09-2011 4:50 PM
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03-09-2011 4:20 PM


It still comes down to a world we created.
And the one we inherited.

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