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Author Topic:   The problem with science II
SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 182 of 233 (321201)
06-13-2006 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
06-13-2006 5:42 PM


Re: The Two Cultures / science v human nature
I'm pretty sure sexual attraction is genetic on a physical level.
It certainly feels that way to me.
No one is bullying you. They are just asking you to support your position

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 193 of 233 (321243)
06-13-2006 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Faith
06-13-2006 5:49 PM


Re: The Two Cultures / science v human nature
And no you do NOT feel any genetic motivation in your sexual attraction.
Yeah, amazing how men are attracted to large breasts, a narrow waist and wide hips. Nothing genetic about that at all. Funny how these qualities have been attractive in mates throughout human history.
I can easily see the genetic component in what type of women I'm attracted to. Is that the whole story? Absolutely not, it's a very complicated subject. There is certainly a component of personal taste as well as cultural bias among other things.
I'm glad you are now a seer and can read my mind and tell me how I feel.
This whole thread presents a false dichotomy that would only be argued by someone with little to no knowledge of science.

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 195 of 233 (321247)
06-13-2006 8:11 PM
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06-13-2006 8:07 PM


Re: The Two Cultures / science v human nature
Do you have to have large breasts to produce a lot of milk?
I have no idea (and doubt) if breast size has anything to do with milk production.
It's certainly a complicated subject..... and I don't mean to say that physical attraction is solely based on genetics. But large breasts are an example of a trait that has been considered sexually attractive by most major cultures...
I should probably stop as I am getting a bit off topic

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 196 of 233 (321252)
06-13-2006 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by JavaMan
05-24-2006 6:45 AM


Evolutionary antenna design
So I've been thinking about this thread... (which I actually think is just a big convoluted god of the gaps, false dichotomy) and I thought back again to the evolutionary antenna design done by NASA.
Now, as an Eletrical/Computer Engineer my thought on the best way to design an antenna would be to use calculus and antenna theory...
However, someone decided to try applying evolution to antenna design (even though it might have seemed silly or counterintuitive at the time) and the result was veyr successful. This is no different than trying to apply what we DO know to areas we know less about. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't,,, Evolutionary psychology is IMO a place where it hasn't been as successful.
Science doesn't claim to have all the answers... but scientists will certainly investigate any question they can. Some of the greatest breakthoughs in history have resulted from counterintuitive thinking that might not feel right.
I just don't see the problem.
This just seems to be god of the gaps, argument from incredulity and a false dichotomy all roled into one.

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 211 of 233 (321378)
06-14-2006 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by JavaMan
06-14-2006 7:33 AM


Re: Evolutionary antenna design
1. I don't believe in any gods;
2. I don't have a problem with incredible scientific interpretations per se;
3. My dichotomy between a scientific description of a thing and the thing itself is a real dichotomy not a false one .
Apologies Javaman,
I actually meant to do a general reply.
Your point #3 is a very good one which I agree with.

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