Where is the point?

The point of my life is to "get better."
It's general and vague like that for a reason.
I don't know what the point of your life is, or anyone elses. Ha! You don't say? Who's isn't? Nothing.Wait. What's the context, here?
In my head at the end of my life? - Satisfaction.
In other people's memories recently after my death? - The idea that I was the best human being they ever met.
In other people's memories a long time after my death? - That my name is... somewhere.
In the ultimate sense long, long after my death? Perhaps when the Earth/Solar Sytem/Universe is no more? - Nothing (this is the context I guessed you meant).But, really, I don't see the connection between this question and the original "what is the point of life" kind of question. I really think the point of my life is to "get better." But I also don't really expect (or even desire) anything specific "from" my life, at any time. Nope. Why? Why do you care to answer this question?
Do you want a purpose? Create one, that's more fulfilling than having one given to you anyway.
Do you want safety? Create it, that's stronger than having it given to you anyway.
Do you want to live forever? Can't.
Do you want a donut? Go buy one from the local coffee shop. To get better.
It's kinda difficult, though. There isn't exactly a scale to compare anything with... Improvement. Mostly the places I have to in order to survive (like work and grocery shopping). But when I get the chance to do what I want to do, I spend my time with my wife. Because she improves me.

I do agree that "having the most stuff is probably not the point."
But your words here seem to indicate that you think "irrational behaviour" is a bad thing. I think this will cause you trouble in trying to figure out the point of life... because figuring out the point of life is an irrational thing.If we want to drive a nail into wood, we get a hammer.
The point of the hammer is to hit nails.
This point is objective because the hammer was built as a tool with a specific function in mind (hitting nails).
Humans were not built with a specific function in mind. You're right, these things do exist. But to think that because they exist they are therefore "the point of life" is simply wrong.Life doesn't exist "in order to" reproduce.
That's just what life does... life reproduces. But that's not "the point of" life.Yes, you have evolved tendencies for survival and to promote reproduction. But, where did those come from? What drives those? I'm sure you'll agree that it all comes down to chemical reactions and physical properties. Even the first life form (whatever it was) is likely some sort of chemical reaction.Those chemicals don't think "hey... if I line up with that catalyst, then I can reproduce!"
No. The chemical reaction just happens because the chemicals are there and the physical properties allow (force?) it to happen.Saying that the point of life is to survive/reproduce because of our natural nature is like saying the point of a ball is to roll downhill because of gravity.
That's not a point or purpose... that's just a scientific explanation for what's going to happen to natural things left in their natural environment.As far as "natural and/or scientific reasoning" goes... there is no point, no purpose to life. Those are just descriptions of how the physical stuff works.And, of course, it doesn't matter anyway.
Let's assume "the point to life" actually is to reproduce.
So what?
Let's say I don't want to reproduce. Let's say I just want to own a hotel chain.
Therefore, reproducing (which bears a heavy load of responsibility... time and finances) will take me away from owning a hotel chain.
I will be sad (frustrated... angry... whatever).
So how is it good to be following reproduction as "a point to life" if I don't agree with it?It's not good at all, that's because it simply doesn't matter.The point to life (the thing/s that will make you happy and satisfied... the only point that actually matters...) is irrational in it's very nature. It's subjective, and extremely personal.Maybe "the natural course of things" is extremely important to you. Therefore, maybe having babies and reproducing is your irrational point to life. This doesn't make it stronger or more powerful... this just makes it yours. (If that were true...)The point is, as long as you think that "irrational things" are bad... you're never going to be satisfied with a point to life because all points to life are irrational.Irrational things are only bad when they're used in the wrong way, like to solve a rational problem. "What is the point of life" is an irrational problem, there are many living things (and some humans as well) that get along perfectly fine without knowing a point to their life.

What if the universe does not want to exist, but it must?
What if the universe exists accidentally or doesn't care or does not have the ability to want anything?It seems that in those cases where the universe doesn't specifically want to exist, we would still be here to ponder the question.

Absolutely.
Even if absolute or objective reasons for why the universe exists do become available, I would still say that our own derived reasons would be more important to us... and therefore they are the "ultimate" reason in any case.Not in any scientific/explanation context; only in any philosophical/purpose context.(Unfortunately, I am unable to witness the utubiness of your post. I am going to assume it was very unwitty and boring... that way I don't feel bad about missing out on it )

Thanks, I like this sort of thing. I agree.
In the context of something like "I have children, so therefore the point of my life is to take care of those children..." reason can have an important role in finding a point to life. Did I say that?
Maybe when I said this:

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Humans were not built with a specific function in mind.

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I would say that a God/creator is required for there to be an "objective/absolute" point to life.
But I wouldn't use the term "uberpoint" because that carries a level of "greater/better" to it.
My thoughts are that even if such an objective/absolute point was made available to us, it wouldn't matter:

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And, of course, it doesn't matter anyway.
Let's assume "the point to life" actually is to reproduce (or whatever else).
So what?
Let's say I don't want to reproduce (or whatever else). Let's say I just want to own a hotel chain.
Therefore, reproducing (which bears a heavy load of responsibility... time and finances) will take me away from owning a hotel chain.
I will be sad (frustrated... angry... whatever).
So how is it good to be following reproduction as "a point to life" if I don't agree with it?

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It's not good at all, that's because it simply doesn't matter.

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The point to life (the thing/s that will make you happy and satisfied... the only point that actually matters...) is irrational in it's very nature. It's subjective, and extremely personal.

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You can assume the objective/absolute point from a God/creator to be anything... if you don't agree with it, it doesn't matter. In that sense, the uberpoint is the one that comes from ourselves. The one that comes from ourselves is greater/better than any other. This is because even if we were built for an exclusive purpose by God/creator, the purpose from God/creater would be subjective in context (to Him)... even though it would be objective in context to us. Our intelligence and consciousness allows us to create our own subjective points to life. This is what makes us different from hammers. We are not inanimate objects. Our subjective concept is "on par" with another being's subjective concept. Even if that other being is a "greater consciousness" or "our creator" or whatever. Well, actually, it will vary with the context... but if the context is "a point for our life" then it's actually our subjective concept that is greater than a God/creator's subjective concept. Perhaps.
My idea is that it doesn't matter, because even if we ever do... the only point that matters is still the one we come up with ourselves. Maybe we will agree with one from a greater consciousness, but that's still our choice, and therefore still "from ourselves."