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Author Topic:   My Beliefs- GDR
Zift Ylrhavic Resfear
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Message 146 of 1324 (699299)
05-17-2013 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by GDR
05-04-2013 7:13 PM


Alright, i'm just here to make a few clarifications about a detail ^^
When we look take a long look at our world and consider the complexity of a single cell then I find it very difficult to believe that that cell could be formed by the chance combination of particles that by chance came together to form atoms and molecules. It is my belief that my position is the more plausible of the two.
It is a matter of statistics here. There was an ocean of primordial soup that stayed for at least several thousands years. Who know how many billions of lipid bubbles formed in that ocean? Even if there is only 1 chance out of 1 billion to have a cell spontaneously form, as long as we don't know how many of these lipid bubbles formed we can't know what the odds were to have a cell form from one of them. Keep also in mind than it was a primitive cell, not as complex as today.
I like to take the example of a type of glass that only have 0.1% chances of breaking when falling. In a shop full of those glasses, the boss yells at the employees because one glass broke. He says "there is only 0.1% chances of the glass breaking when falling, it means one of you broke it on purpose !". But he doesn't know how many glasses fell. If it is a large storehouse and an earthquake happened then maybe several thousands glasses got thrown down on the floor. What are the odds then for each of them staying intact?
I'm not saying it can't be the work of an intelligent being. I'm just saying as long as we don't have more accurate numbers, we can't know if it was likely or not for a cell to appear.
I should be clear though. I do not believe that the Bible is inerrant or that it has been dictated by God, which is not to say that God doesn’t use the Bible to impact our hearts and minds.
It is similar in a way to what i say in this topic : EvC Forum: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men? ^^
I had no reply so far, and i have no way to know if it's because nobody look at this forum anymore or if it's because nobody had anything to say (which i doubt^^) --
As for the rest of the post, i don't have any opinion about it. I made the choice not to believe in anything and say to the question "do you think there is a god or everything is the result of chances?" "I don't know". I'll learn about the world as much as i want or can, but i promised myself to never believe in something. Either there are evidences and i know, either i don't know. And for now, there are no evidences about God existing or not.
I see the sharks coming for an easy kill, but no believing doesn't prevent me to make hypothesis. Doing an hypothesis doesn't mean i believe it's true, just that it is a possibility. Just as God or no gods are also possibilities.
Sorry if all that has already been said before.
Edited by Zift Ylrhavic Resfear, : typos

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Zift Ylrhavic Resfear
Junior Member (Idle past 3972 days)
Posts: 9
Joined: 05-14-2013


Message 147 of 1324 (699300)
05-17-2013 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by Faith
05-16-2013 12:35 PM


Re: The Gospel Message
YOUR HEART CANNOT BE RIGHT IF YOU ARE NOT SAVED BY FAITH IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.
Then God seriously messed up. Because Jesus story took a very long time to reach parts of the world like the asian, australian, north and south pole or american continent.
Are you saying God abandoned them by not allowing them to reach him just because they didn't even have the possibility of believing in the Christ?
To me, it seems like you'll be saved if you are good and compassionate, not if you believe in him.

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