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# What is the lowest multiplication rate for Humans ?

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ringo
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 Message 106 of 144 (767543) 08-30-2015 2:25 PM Reply to: Message 103 by goldenlightArchangel08-29-2015 8:39 PM

Re: Important: For All Posters ( & Readers ) The One Million Dollar Question
Crazy writes:
If one day you could measure the difference between mammoths and Humans,
and if you could measure that by the means of distance,
that is how far your question stays out of topic
No, I'm comparing rate of growth of a human population with rate of growth of another animal population. How is that not a valid comparison?
If human growth "must" be a non-zero minimum, according to you, then you need to explain why the dinosaurs' growth rate is not also a non-zero minimum. Why are you avoiding the question?

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 Message 107 of 144 (767571) 08-30-2015 4:00 PM Reply to: Message 106 by ringo08-30-2015 2:25 PM

Re: Important: For All Posters ( & Readers ) The One Million Dollar Question
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wrote: ... I'm comparing rate of growth of a human population with rate of growth of another animal population. How is that not a valid comparison?
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The above comparison can not be done unless you provide the rate of growth of Human population,
that is, a person must have the lowest possible rate of growth ( per every 1,000 years ) that the Humans could keep on growing and multiplying.
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 Message 108 of 144 (767643) 08-31-2015 12:02 PM Reply to: Message 107 by goldenlightArchangel08-30-2015 4:00 PM

Re: Important: For All Posters ( & Readers ) The One Million Dollar Question
Crazy writes:
The above comparison can not be done unless you provide the rate of growth of Human population,
that is, a person must have the lowest possible rate of growth ( per every 1,000 years ) that the Humans could keep on growing and multiplying.
Never mind the human population for now. Let's look at the dinosaurs:
What was the dinosaur population at its peak? An approximation is fine - hundreds, thousands, millions, etc.
What is the dinosaur population today?

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 Message 109 of 144 (803827) 04-05-2017 8:44 AM Reply to: Message 1 by goldenlightArchangel06-04-2013 8:55 PM

Re: Average of years without multiplying: 4,750 per 5,000
The human body is mathematically based on the template of beauty also called the Golden Section, as is the microcosm and macrocosm. This template, or proportion is the basis of all created and designed life.
Our body is special, and could not possibly have designed itself by chance as evolutionists believe and want to believe. Our DNA, our design is by DESIGN.
History is by design, the future is by design, time is by design, distances are by design, speeds are by design..... nothing happened by accident, or were created by explosions, or magical beneficial mutations. They destroy, design designed the beginning, in one fell swoop, to carry on after the creation, for recreation. As life creates life.

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 Message 110 of 144 (803829) 04-05-2017 8:47 AM Reply to: Message 109 by Davidjay04-05-2017 8:44 AM

Re: Average of years without multiplying: 4,750 per 5,000
Human population expansion is again a fundamental process of PHI or the Golden Section. It is reproductivity, it is expansion. All populations expand in PHI proportions..... unless stopped by cataclysmic forces like a worldwide flood etc..
All races stemmed from the original couple. Start at 2, and then the expansion of human life started. Different magical couples in different magical places did not all mutate at the same time and reproduce at the same time.
Count 1 plus 1 equals 2, who make 3....... and away the human population went. IE the 1st Law, was Be fruitful and multiply.... get it together and have sex, and have babies. An easy to comprehend mathematical projection and process..... Multiplying is pleasurable, subtraction, division not so pleasurable......
Study PHI or the Golden Section to understand population growths and expansions....
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 Message 111 of 144 (803870) 04-05-2017 11:40 AM Reply to: Message 110 by Davidjay04-05-2017 8:47 AM

Re: Average of years without multiplying: 4,750 per 5,000
Human population expansion is again a fundamental process of PHI or the Golden Section. It is reproductivity, it is expansion. All populations expand in PHI proportions..... unless stopped by cataclysmic forces like a worldwide flood etc..
No they don't.
Below is Eurostat's chart of the rate of births & deaths in the 28 member states of the EU between 1961 and 2015.
Note how both rates change; and not in proportion to one another. Therefore the proportion by which the population expands is not a constant. You will note that at the end of the chart we see the population is actually declining (it's not in reality, but that's only due to immigration).
I've always found the resort to Fixed Truths about population growth rates to be the oddest of creationist arguments; since it's so obviously falsified by any empirical evidence you choose to look at. Evidence which is easy to find, easy to understand, doesn't require any 'evolutionist' assumptions and is usually common knowledge.
Edited by caffeine, : typo

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 Message 112 of 144 (803885) 04-05-2017 12:50 PM Reply to: Message 95 by goldenlightArchangel08-28-2015 11:19 PM

Re: Important: For All Posters ( & Readers ) The One Million Dollar Question
You know that the population levels of Europe have always grown and never remained stable during a timeline of five thousand years
Black Death.

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 Message 113 of 144 (809030) 05-15-2017 2:56 PM

ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Abiogenesis has been proven to be a lie
as a matter of of fact, abiogenesis in all is just another way of making easy money from the sponsorships, by deceiving others . .
Also their people are not able to create a living being
and their genetic technology are just clones of living beings that do already exist.
Every teacher on Human Origins has become a liar
for not facing the fact that his theory for Human multiplication on the planet and Europe should be backed up by the presentation of a population growth model.
Time to see beyond the spoon. Stop giving money to liars, and stop being spoonfed . .
. . bring up your list of problems that evolutionary theory has failed to solve . .
Edited by celestialGyoud, : update

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 Message 114 of 144 (809033) 05-15-2017 3:02 PM Reply to: Message 113 by goldenlightArchangel05-15-2017 2:56 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Come on people, bring up here to the front your list of problems that evolutionary theory has failed to solve . .
Ok, I'll give it a go......earwax.

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 Message 115 of 144 (809037) 05-15-2017 3:18 PM Reply to: Message 114 by Tanypteryx05-15-2017 3:02 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
That is one.
Why funny bones?

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 Message 116 of 144 (809040) 05-15-2017 3:27 PM Reply to: Message 115 by jar05-15-2017 3:18 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Why funny bones?
Those are good ones.
And what about paper cuts on the tongue from licking envelopes?
Well, and of course farts, evolutionary theory has failed to solve farts.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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 Message 117 of 144 (809042) 05-15-2017 3:31 PM Reply to: Message 116 by Tanypteryx05-15-2017 3:27 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Errant stupidity of creationists

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 Message 118 of 144 (809043) 05-15-2017 3:34 PM Reply to: Message 116 by Tanypteryx05-15-2017 3:27 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
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 Message 119 of 144 (809044) 05-15-2017 3:34 PM Reply to: Message 113 by goldenlightArchangel05-15-2017 2:56 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Abiogenesis has been proven to be a lie
as a matter of of fact, abiogenesis in all is just another way of making easy money from the sponsorships, by deceiving others . .
Also their people are not able to create a living being
and their genetic technology are just clones of living beings that do already exist.
Every teacher on Human Origins has become a liar
for not facing the fact that his theory for Human multiplication on the planet and Europe should be backed up by the presentation of a population growth model.
Time to see beyond the spoon. Stop giving money to liars, and stop being spoonfed . .
. . bring up your list of problems that evolutionary theory has failed to solve . .
That was an odd collection of words.

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 Message 120 of 144 (809047) 05-15-2017 3:51 PM Reply to: Message 119 by Dr Adequate05-15-2017 3:34 PM

Re: ULTIMATE LIST of Problems that Evolutionary theory has failed to solve
Dr A writes:
That was an odd collection of words.
Particularly this little set
.....on the planet and Europe .....

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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