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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Welcome to the fray jaf
Show me evidence of a transitional fossil ... Easy: A Smooth Fossil Transition: Pelycodus
quote: Every fossil in that record is a transitional fossil, intermediate between generations lower in the column and generations higher in the column. The column represents relative age but the Law of Superposition.
... proving the whacky theory of evolution, ... Why am I so amused that creationists just don't understand that scientific theories are never proven, and that whenever they say silly things like this, all they are demonstrating is their scientific illiteracy. Or understanding that words do not disprove or refute theory, and silly name calling just demonstrates a lack of understanding -- whether by stupidity, ignorance, delusion, confusion or willful misrepresentations doesn't matter.
(1) The process of evolution involves changes in the composition of hereditary traits, and changes to the frequency of their distributions within breeding populations from generation to generation, in response to ecological challenges and opportunities. If we look at the continued effects of evolution over many generations, the accumulation of changes from generation to generation may become sufficient for individuals to develop combinations of traits that are observably different from the ancestral parent population. This lineal change within species is sometimes called phyletic change in species, or phyletic speciation. This is also sometimes called arbitrary speciation in that the place to draw the line between linearly evolved genealogical populations is subjective, and because the definition of species in general is tentative and sometimes arbitrary. If phyletic speciation was all that occurred, then all life would be one species, readily sharing DNA via horizontal transfer (asexual) and interbreeding (sexual) and various combinations. This is not the case, however, because there is a second process that results in multiple species and increases the diversity of life.
(2) The process of divergent speciation involves the division of a parent population into two or more reproductively isolated daughter populations, which then are free to (micro) evolve independently of each other. With multiple speciation events, a pattern is formed that looks like a branching bush or tree: the tree of descent from common ancestor populations. Each branching point is a node for a clade of the parent species at the node point and all their descendants, and with multiple speciation events we see a pattern form of clades branching from parent ancestor species and nesting within larger clades branching from older parent ancestor species.
(3) The Theory of Evolution (ToE), stated in simple terms, is that the process of evolution over generations, and the process of divergent speciation, are sufficient to explain the diversity of life as we know it, from the fossil record, from the genetic record, from the historic record, and from everyday record of the life we observe in the world all around us. This theory is tested by experiments and field observations carried out as part of the science of evolution. Not only that but the formation of nested hierarchies is confirmed by a second totally unrelated methodology, genetics and the branching hierarchy found in DNA of related species -- evidence that should not be expected if evolution were false, and evidence that reinforces morphological hierarchies and confirms the overall pattern of evolution. There is, of course, a whole lot more to the rational scientific study of evolution, and we could hardly hope to condense it down into a post or two for the necessary remedial education in this science that some people need. There are however other resources for those who want to learn (and hence countermand\correct their ignorance\confusion\delusion) ... but you have to want to learn. One good source is: An introduction to evolution - Understanding Evolution The process of evolution has been observed occurring in virtually every living population of species, and thus the process of evolution is a known fact of the natural world. Divergent speciation has been observed occurring, and thus the process of divergent speciation is a known fact of the natural world. The theory that these can explain the diversity of life has been extensively tested, and not one instance of any anomalies that don't fit into a pattern of nested hierarchies and relationships through common ancestor populations.
... you should if it where true have millions and yet you have None. ... Curiously a short time googling scientific websites (rather than creationist ones) will show you that there are a mountain of fossils that show evolution has occurred in the past. Here is an example of a few more than 65 million transitional fossils in just one genera: web.archive.org/web/19990203140657/gly.fsu.edu/tour/article_7.html
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Lunacy the whole idea is a luciferian Freemason hoax. Ah, I understand, you suffer from delusions ... sorry. My sympathy.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Most evolutionists seem to have serious issues with the character of God, ... A statement that is demonstrably false, not only are there many scientists around the world that are religious (with a number of different religions represented) but many in the USA are Christians. See Radiometric Dating, A Christian Perspective, Dr. Roger C. Wiens . Further evidence is found with the clergy letter project Now if you have issues with these people not believing the "correct" religion in the "correct" manner ... and only your version appears to have trouble with science in general and evolution in particular ... then I suggest the problem is in you, not the religious scientists. Science includes people of all faiths and beliefs, from atheists to zoroastrians ...
... why not the character of a man who belived half of us to be savages worthy of extinction? It doesn't matter. He was a man of his times and was influenced by his cultural ties, but who and what he was is irrelevant to science. Science does not depend on people's beliefs and opinions or their character -- science depends on the scientific method -- observation -- hypothesis -- prediction -- testing -- review and repeat ... a continually ongoing process. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Darwin predicted that around about now "At some future period, not very distant, as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly (almost certainly, a favourite evolutionist interpretation of a proven fact) exterminate and replace throughout the world, the savage races" Now that we know about genetics and genotypes evolutionists today would more likely predict that all the different varieties of humans would become increasingly blended over time because of the global access to all corners of the earth. Let's assume that Darwin's prediction is now falsified ... does that mean that his theory of the origin of species by means of natural selection is falsified? No, because we have seen this validated, not just in the evolution visible in virtually every living species from generation to generation, but speciation has been observed as well. These observances are facts that validate the theory. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hitler allegedly was a big fan of Darwin's clearly racist views in that he was able to "scientifically supported" exterminate the "sub human" Jew in the aid of furthering evolution with the full support of Darwin's "science". Irrelevant. Many dictators have been known to "borrow" things they believe supports their views, that doesn't mean that the science of evolution predicts or produces dictators. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Then you will also know the fossil record and lack of any evolving inter species type fossils would have woken any thinking humanoid by now, but in imagine you are now progressing the illness by teaching it too. Oh dear. This is very confused thinking -- what is an "inter species type" ??? Or are you under educated on how evolution actually works?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I'm afraid your avatar is inducing grand mal epileptic seizures, any chance you can change it as I cant take a buck toothed cartoon character seriously? If you hit the ESC key it will stop. You can also move the page to the left until it is off screen. Your inability to deal with it is not my problem. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
my post that this is a reply to has been hidden by admin due to going off topic.
Either you expand the topic to include your misunderstanding of evolution and "interspecies" fossils or start a new thread. Or learn about evolution in specific and biology in general: An introduction to evolution - Understanding Evolution by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Which curiously has nothing to do with either this thread or my post.
Irrelevant babbling. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Again you are going off topic ... so you will need to inform admin that you want your thread to just wander all over the place while you make silly assertions.
You cant "falsify" a theory it isn't required ... As has been pointed out by frako your ignorance of how science works is amusing ... it one finds pathetic ignorance amusing. Scientific theories are falsifiable because that is a requirement of the scientific method. If you don't know this very basic foundational element of science how can you hope to be able to say anything worth considering about science? Do you think someone totally ignorant of the bible would be a good source for criticism of the bible? I don't think so.
... Natural selection is a fact. Indeed, and so is genetic mutation and genetic drift -- other aspects of evolution. In fact the process of evolution -- the change in the the composition of hereditary traits, and changes to the frequency of their distributions within breeding populations from generation to generation, in response to ecological challenges and opportunities -- has been observed in virtually every living species today as well as in some fossil records.
Cats evolving into to dogs is a fairy tale ... Indeed, you are right ... again ... but for the wrong reason. Not because it hasn't been observed, but because that is not how evolution works, and if it were observed then there would be serious questions.
... as is Darwins fantasy of descending from a baboon or a courageous little Monkey. ... And curiously, we are descended from an ape ancestor we share with chimpanzees, an older ape ancestor we share with gorillas, and an even older ape ancestor we share with orangutans ... Note that no species living today is descendant from another species living today -- that is a silly creationist delusion. Rather we share common ancestors. Apes as a clade share a common primate ancestor with baboons and monkeys -- so no we are not descendants of baboons and monkey.
As is whales having legs walking the earth then deciding they liked the sea better and going back. See Evidence for Evolution: Whale evolution for discussion. Another opportunity for you to learn rather that wallow in ignorance. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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My understanding is fully expanded, believe me, people like you are the enemies of truth and a danger to the human race, Dwakins and his minions aught to be exterminated. And thus we see the full impact of religious based morality on behavior. Sadby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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