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Topic: Ambiguity-uncertainty-vagueness the key to resistance against the idea of evolution?
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: the dangers of not accepting Genesis
The only thing you cannot accept is a literal interpretation of Genesis. But if you don't accept Genesis literally, why accept the rest? Genesis, and the Bible as a whole, is a Theological compendium, not a Science or History Text.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 28 of 143 (250214)
10-09-2005 1:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 21 by Faith
10-09-2005 1:17 AM
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Faith once again totally out of touch with reality.
Well, it turns out that I CAN post here, whaddya know, even after jar pretty much told me a few weeks ago that I'd never-never-never-never-never be allowed to post in the sacred Science fora except by Special Dispensation and that wasn't even certain. I suppose the Dispensation was granted Silently then. Must be a Very Special Dispensation indeed. That is such a whinny post as usual. You certainly knew you could post here and in fact have posted in this forum as recently as 9-22-05. See Message 139. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 21 by Faith, posted 10-09-2005 1:17 AM | | Faith has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: The Fall as Explanation: Not Good Enough.
In addition it is but one Christian perspective and not one accepted by the Majority of the Churches.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 66 of 143 (250895)
10-11-2005 5:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
10-11-2005 5:39 PM
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LOL, Faith makes yet more unsupported assertions.
We're in a Science Forum Faith. Time to back up your assertions with some evidence for something called the Fall. Or you can admit yet again that you are wrong! ROTFLMAO.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 65 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 5:39 PM | | Faith has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 71 of 143 (250922)
10-11-2005 6:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
10-11-2005 6:17 PM
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Re: LOL, Faith makes yet more unsupported assertions.
Support your assertions, Faith. Evidence. You're not in your little playpen where we work so hard to protect you. Now you're in the real world, not fantasyland. Evidence for the FALL Faith.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 69 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 6:17 PM | | Faith has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 74 of 143 (250938)
10-11-2005 6:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 72 by AdminNosy
10-11-2005 6:34 PM
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Re: Evidence for and against the "fall"
Perhaps it would be appropriate or educational for Faith if you supplied evidence against the "fall"? It's near impossible to provide evidence against something that never happened in the first place. But I do have great hope that someday Faith will begin to understand what Christianity is all about.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 78 of 143 (251007)
10-11-2005 10:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
10-11-2005 10:39 PM
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And the unsupported assertions continue.
We're in a science forum Faith. Please provide the evidence that "Death is a result of the Fall" and not the normal result of being born. Please provide the evidence that "All disease, deformity, disaster, suffering, misery, murder and mayhem are a result of the Fall" and not simply the result of well known Natural causes. Please provide the evidence that "Human confusion is the result of the Fall". Please provide the evidence that "The fact that human beings can't agree on who God is or even if there is a God is the result of the Fall." You're in the science forums now Faith and so far you haven't even shown that you have any idea of what evidence is. Please provide evidence that there was even a Fall. Do you know what evidence is? It's something that can be independently verified. So far, as usual, all you've done is supply yet more unsupported assertions.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 77 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 10:39 PM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 79 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 10:59 PM | | jar has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 80 of 143 (251010)
10-11-2005 11:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 79 by Faith
10-11-2005 10:59 PM
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No Faith, you did not provide evidence, only assertions. You're handy with making things up, we all know you have a great imagination. But where is the evidence that desease is not the result of very well known and understood natural processes? Where is the evidence that Katrina was the result of the alleged Fall? Where is the evidence that there even was a Fall? I know you like to try to draw things off topic to avoid the theme of this thread, that those, such as yourself are simply incapable of dealing with reality, so lets try to move back towards the topic. How could one of your wild imaginative assertions like "death is the result of this alleged Fall", be independently verified?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 79 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 10:59 PM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 81 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 11:20 PM | | jar has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 88 of 143 (251141)
10-12-2005 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
10-11-2005 11:20 PM
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Faith Admits she's wrong!!!
but then as usual, simply goes on repeating the same nonsense. LOL
Disease IS the result of well known and natural processes. Good. Well known AND Natural. But then you blow all the progress you've made by asserting ...
All of it derived from the Fall. More mere assertion Faith. Where is the evidence that can be independently confirmed.
The Bible IS evidence of the Fall. No Faith, it is not evidence of the Fall. Some people interpret the Bible to assert that there was a Fall, but that is not true of even all Christians. There is no evidence of a Fall in the Bible, only assertion.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 81 by Faith, posted 10-11-2005 11:20 PM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 89 by Faith, posted 10-12-2005 12:31 PM | | jar has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 91 of 143 (251153)
10-12-2005 12:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
10-12-2005 12:31 PM
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Faith runs away.
When one is unable to support ones beliefs, there are two options. A person can sit down and honestly reevaluate those beliefs in light of evidence, or run away. When beliefs are weak and cannot withstand scrutiny, when they cannot be supported, the easy solution is to simply stick ones fingers in ones ears and say "Na-Na-Na". Beliefs that cannot stand up to challenge, cannot be tempered, are weak and ineffectual.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 89 by Faith, posted 10-12-2005 12:31 PM | | Faith has not replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 100 of 143 (251623)
10-13-2005 11:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 99 by RAZD
10-13-2005 11:15 PM
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Re: Faith runs away.
Very good post. Thank you very much.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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