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RAZD
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Message 2 of 46 (761782)
07-05-2015 5:51 PM
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07-05-2015 5:15 PM


basic
An economy is based on the movement of money, thus anything that improves movement improves the economy.
The poorest elements in any economy spend money as fast as they get it, if nothing else to pay off debts. Feed the base and the economy will grow.
This holds for countries as well as people.
Austerity is nothing more than trickle-down under another name -- a failed concept.
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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07-06-2015 6:51 AM
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Re: basic
to add to what anglagard said ...
Economies are based on the creation of actual things that provide actual utility.
Which are useless if nobody can buy them.
That thinking has led to the last several decades of U.S. decline, the recent recession ...
And yet the problem was not with manufacturing of product but with an absence of people buying the product ... because they did not have the money to buy them.
Making products doesn't put money in buyers pockets, what puts money in buyers pockets is fair return on their investment in the production -- a proper compensation for work rather than starvation wages.
That is why bailing out the rich did not result in recovery.
... That thinking has led to the last several decades of U.S. decline, the recent recession ...
Giving money to the rich via tax cuts and bailouts has only made the economy worse by removing money from the pockets of the spenders to put it in the pockets of the hoarders.
... Oh, and the Greek economic crisis.
The problem of Greece will not be solved by austerity and the imposition of big bank deals either, the problem of Greece can be solved by feeding the base of their economy. You can't make a horse run faster by starving it.
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Message 15 of 46 (761870)
07-06-2015 11:10 AM
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07-06-2015 8:12 AM


Re: Where have you gone, Yanis Varoufakis?
... They apparently lied about the true state of their finances for years (basically about tax revenue and entitlement payments) until finally a day came around six years ago when they couldn't make a loan payment, after which the truth gradually emerged. ...
And the current government did not participate in that, but have inherited the result -- it's like Obama having to pay for Bushes wars ^2 ...
Greece should prosecute the lawmakers and banks\financial institutions as Iceland did.

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