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Author Topic:   why did an evolved life-form invent "god"?
Asgara
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Message 9 of 49 (43681)
06-22-2003 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by tomwillrep
06-22-2003 1:03 PM


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Tom,
Imagine that writing hasn't been invented yet....now, tell me who your great great great grandparents were. All 16 of them, their names and the names of all their children and all their children's children. Who were their parents (32 of them) and their parents (64), etc. Remember, writing hasn't been invented yet, no birth records or family letters, or newspapers etc. I have been working on my family history for several years and even with birth, marriage, death records, immigration records and all other kinds of WRITTEN records, I am having difficulty getting past my 2x great grandparents and I don't even have names for most of them. I only have 8 2x great grandparents and I have names for TWO of them.
We are talking 150 year time span and written and recorded information. Now you explain how 6000 years ago humans were suppose to know who their ancestors were 6000 years before that, or 20,000 years, or 50,000 years.
It's not like one day we had ape like ancestors and the next "POOF" the children born were all fully modern humans with a fully modern-like language, and fully capable of remembering and passing on information on each and every generation.
I could sit here right now and write a genealogy for myself, using facts as far back as I can remember and then "making up" the rest to fit with my world view that I am the direct descendant of the first man "George" and as such am blessed by "George's" creator. Two thousand years from now when someone reads this, does it make it all true, considering that some of it can be historically verified?
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Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 11 of 49 (43689)
06-22-2003 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by tomwillrep
06-22-2003 8:54 PM


old families used to be "extended families" therefore - grandparents and great-grandparents lived with their great-grandchildren and grandchildren and children etc etc
then there is the tales past down - i hear "in the war i did.....when i was young i did......
This almost proves my point in message 9. I grew up in the same area as my parents, grandparents, great grandparents...so how come even then my grandparents did not have the information on THEIR grandparents: where they came from, who they were, what they did, etc? Oral stories get changed over time, ever play the game of telephone? Let's say "Bob" shot off his toes to get out of going into combat...he is embarrassed by this so tells his kids that it happened as an accident...the grandkids just hear that Bob was in the war and got his toes shot off...a couple of generations later the story is that Bob got his toes shot off in battle with the enemy...a few generations later the story is now that Bob is a great war hero. Things like this happen now, in an age of written, spoken, recorded history!
so surely - at some point some adapted life form must have grunted out a sentence that was passed down along the lines of "we came from apes" or "we are related to those creatures"
I think that the probable first "grunted" words meant things more like "good to eat", "lion over there", "RUN, HIDE", "MINE". Its was probably quite some time before sounds came to mean abstract thoughts, first priority was survival and things involving that concept were undoubtably what first "language" was for.
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Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2333 days)
Posts: 1783
From: Wisconsin, USA
Joined: 05-10-2003


Message 13 of 49 (43858)
06-23-2003 10:57 PM


Planning on coming back Tom?
hhmm, I know it's only been 24 hours or so, but just wondering if you plan on coming back and replying to any of the answers posted here for you.
Hit and run posters are no fun to talk to. They don't seem to appreciate the time and effort some of the members here put into their answers.
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Asgara
"An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato

  
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