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Author Topic:   why did an evolved life-form invent "god"?
hollygolightly
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Message 19 of 49 (44403)
06-27-2003 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by John
06-26-2003 11:38 PM


Re: Guideline Reminder
I have to agree with John, the comment was a racist comment. I was just researching this very topic for the last 2 days and to suppose that people still in Africa would be closer to an ape culture than people anywhere else in the world is racist. However, I don't think the comment was "intended" to be racist, I think it's a sincere misunderstanding of the issue of "time". At least, I hope so.
Anyway, I'm new here so don't come down too hard on me just yet. I've been reading the forums for a few days now, want to thank all of those arguing for evolution for making science a little easier for me to grasp. Although I am a big believer in science I'm slow to understand it, so don't always feel your "preaching to the deaf", I, for one, am learning. 'Course, I already am an atheist and an evolutionist, just now I understand the mechanisms of those beliefs better.
Melissa

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hollygolightly
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Message 21 of 49 (44409)
06-27-2003 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Autocatalysis
06-27-2003 1:01 AM


My statement was that I did not understand *all* of science, that I have a hard time grasping *some* of the *details*. I was raised Lutheran, was a literal "Jesus Freak" in my latter high school years, shortly afterwards (after having read the bible, no less) converted to wicca for just over 10 years. I have done much research on both religion and science and my conclusion and beliefs are that there is no god whatsoever and science is far more accurate than religion. I understand enough of science and evolution to believe in it, I was just impressed with the "fine tuning" that was put to it that made me able to grasp some of the finer details that escaped me when reading dry, technical books about science.
For example, one thing that took me a long time to grasp was the idea of "color". As explained in all the science terminology and such I was at a loss, I didn't grasp the concept until it was explained to me in the simple term that the "color" the object "doesn't like" is "pushed out" and therefore that is the color we see. Now, having it explained to me that way, I was suddenly able to go back over the more "technical" explanations and finally *fully* understand it.
Melissa

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hollygolightly
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Message 23 of 49 (44413)
06-27-2003 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Autocatalysis
06-27-2003 1:39 AM


Okay, I understand what you're saying, but I didn't say I had faith in anything, as a matter of fact I don't have faith in anything. I did say the word "believe", and in looking up the definition, just to be clear, I will concede your point, although there are actual "facts" within sciences. I work in the medical field, and I have a chronic disease, so most of my science is more fine-tuned in that area than any other, and even then I admit it is still very limited when considering how vast an area this is, but there are certain "facts" within that science.
Which side are you coming from, evolution or creation? I've caught a few other posts of yours, and I'm inclined to think you're an evolutionist. In reading some of the forums on here where it seems a lot of the creationists will not even remotely listen to or try to grasp even the basics of science, I would think that someone admitting they wanted to learn and understand more would be a breath of fresh air. lol. I guess I'm starting off on the wrong foot here. Let me say this, I'm not an idiot. I do understand a lot about science, I'd even go as far as saying I probably understand more than would be expected of someone who doesn't technically study science for a living. I can definitely carry on a pretty good discussion/debate about science, but I will also readily admit when I get "lost", and ask for more information/clarification. As stated elsewhere on this website "no one knows everything", I'm simply trying to learn more, but from what I've seen evolution is winning over creationism in my book. And just one more thing, if my previous "example" gave you the idea that I'm stupid about science, that incident was *years* ago, in high school as a matter of fact. I didn't just figure that one out yesterday. It just always stuck with me as one of those "and the lightbulb lights up" moments.
Melissa

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hollygolightly
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Message 26 of 49 (44417)
06-27-2003 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Autocatalysis
06-27-2003 2:41 AM


Autocatalysis~
I didn't mean to sound hostile either, I apologize if I did. I agree with your previous post. It's kind of hard to get "emotions and tones" through the 'Net, and I admit I can be a little "touchy" at times, it has to do with having agoraphobia, I apologize. Also, I've been lurking a few days now and I am well aware not to get involved in debating a topic unless I am quite knowledgable in said topic.
As an aside, it's interesting how I even ended up on this site. I was actually trying to look up the production cost of insulin, which led to a site called "things creationists hate" (which included insulin) and that led to this site. All of my 'Net searches end up totally off the original subject.
Alas, it's late and I need sleep. G'night all.

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