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Author Topic:   What isn't natural?
Percy
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Message 5 of 58 (398693)
05-02-2007 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Fosdick
05-01-2007 1:33 PM


The word natural has a number of definitions, but there are two that are most relevant to the debate here.
One definition refers to those parts of the universe not affected or influenced by humans. In this definition, natural and artificial are opposites.
The other definition is more science-related. In this definition everything in the universe is natural, including humans, and the supernatural encompasses everything else.
You can argue that during a discussion one should not switch back and forth between these two definitions, but one cannot argue that one definition is wrong and the other right. They are both accepted definitions.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 11 of 58 (398772)
05-02-2007 2:24 PM
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05-02-2007 1:07 PM


I can't tell if you're arguing against my point in Message 5 or just ignoring it.
--Percy

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Message 26 of 58 (418175)
08-26-2007 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by New Cat's Eye
08-26-2007 6:54 PM


Re: Nature is unconscious
Hi CS,
You and Hoot Mon are using two different definitions of the word natural. You're using natural in the sense of "not made or influenced by man." Hoot Mon is using natural in the sense of "not supernatural." They're both perfectly legitimate definitions, but you guys won't be able to have a meaningful discussion until you start using the same one.
--Percy

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