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Author Topic:   Big Bang Problem
Loudmouth
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Message 12 of 185 (94738)
03-25-2004 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Boston
03-23-2004 2:35 PM


Re: Big Bang Problem
How about this. The water in toilets, when flushed, go in opposite directions in the northern and southern hemispheres. This should be impossible because of the conservation of angular momentum after the Big Bang. All toilets should flush in the same direction.
Of course, this is just sarcasm. However, it illustrates a very cogent point. The Big Bang has nothing to do with which direction the toilet water goes when you flush it. This is due to the Corriolis effect (sp?). Local forces can overcome previous forces, as is the case both with toilet water and the formation of our solar system. The Big Bang did not create our solar system, just as it didn't create the toilet or the water. Local forces, such as local gravitational forces in newly forming celestial bodies, overcomes the previous forces that occured billions of years ago in the big bang. If our solar system is about 5 billion years old, that leaves about 10 billion years for other forces to counteract Big Bang forces.
As you can see, planetary spin has nothing to do with the Big Bang, but is instead due to local gravitational forces during the foramtion of our solar system. Insisting that the two are inexorably tied is as erroneous as expecting toilet water to spin in the same direction in the two hemispheres due to Big Bang forces. This is another reason Kent Hovind should not be listened to, another reason on a very long list.

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Loudmouth
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Message 18 of 185 (94771)
03-25-2004 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by RAZD
03-25-2004 3:21 PM


Re: Big Bang Problem
Then perhaps we should move from toilets to hurricanes and tornadoes. Or how about water currents in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. They do have opposite spin in the different hemispheres. Or even the bands on Jupiter that spin in different directions. If creationists are so worried about opposite spin, why did they focus on planets when there are more examples other than the planets? Of course, you have to take the intended audience into consideration. I guess as long as you start any scientific discussion with "And this shows how the Big Bang is impossible" anything that follows will be taken as the truth.
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Loudmouth
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Message 124 of 185 (101622)
04-21-2004 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by desdamona
04-21-2004 5:30 PM


Re: Let us ask but not conclude
quote:
I'm not a crowd pleases like you. I can stand on my own.
I'll learn all the science and the math and then I'll come after you!
Math and science does not support you,how many scientists do you need to hear tell you that?
So you know little about science, but yet you feel you can tell 100's of thousands of scientists they are wrong. Creationists make up less that 0.1% of all scientists within biology. So maybe I should as you how many scientists does it take before you start listening.

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