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Author Topic:   T=0 and a Zero Energy Universe
Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 64 (467805)
05-24-2008 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Straggler
05-24-2008 3:02 PM


Re: T=0 and a Zero Energy Universe
Straggler writes:
I don't think our inability to comprehend something is good enough reason to discount it as "impossible". An inability to believe something is even less of a reason to discount it.
Then why shouldn't that apply to the possibility of a higher intelligence capable of creating and designing the complex systems observable in the universe. We can and do cite many reasons to argue for intelligent design but you argue that it's magic/unbelievable/impossible.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 42 of 64 (467953)
05-25-2008 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Straggler
05-25-2008 3:16 PM


Re: T=0 and a Zero Energy Universe
Straggler writes:
Buz required God to be continually violoating the 2nd law of thermodynamics. In fact in Buz's eternal universe there is no 2nd law of thermodynamics because God is eternally reversing entropy (the 2nd law of thermodynaimcs tells us that entropy will always increase in a closed system).
A one off "accident" that may or may not break one law of thermodynamics is hardly comparable with the claim that the second law of thermodynamics is effectively null and void because of the continual and ongoing activities of a creator.
Your understanding of thermodynamics obviously rivals Buz's in terms of complete and utter incomprehension.
I'm becoming inclined to agree with you on this relative to the universe at large but not necessarily to systems in the universe. I'll not get into this further though as I don't want to get off topic here.
I'm still convinced that your zero factor relative to BB does violate 1LoT, however.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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