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thief
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Message 115 of 143 (495091)
01-20-2009 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Agobot
12-16-2008 6:04 PM


Thief here
Coincidentally, I've been thinking on this topic all day.
Found this thread and the lengthy discussion, but may have overlooked the word...singularity
Perhaps one divided by zero is possible

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thief
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Message 117 of 143 (495096)
01-20-2009 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Larni
01-20-2009 7:37 PM


Isn't one divided by zero undefined?
I have some recall this is not allowed when performing calculations
As for the singularity...does it not lack all points of comprehension?

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thief
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Message 119 of 143 (495122)
01-20-2009 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by bluescat48
01-20-2009 10:06 PM


The title of this thread is expanding time as a question
More than 100 replies came and went...and maybe I failed to see it.
But last I heard... time is a measure of movement.
As such, it is a tool... made by man... to serve man.
It is not a force, such as gravity.
It is only a means by which we cope with our everyday efforts and observations of movement, large or small.
To say time and space are relative terms is correct...in math.
But physically...space and mass are relative, and their relationship is measured by gravitational effects
Time is cognitive construct. An intellectual appliance.
thief

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thief
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Message 129 of 143 (495234)
01-21-2009 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by DevilsAdvocate
01-21-2009 5:58 AM


Thief here....
Okay, your perspective is complex and includes the collective knowledge of all the life time efforts of the afore mentioned math experts, scientists, and genius type people...but do you think of time as an energy, a form of mass, or neither?

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thief
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Message 131 of 143 (495260)
01-21-2009 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by DevilsAdvocate
01-21-2009 7:56 PM


Perhaps my question was too simple...which would lend to answers of complexity
I was taught existence is material as is solid, liquid, or gas....
or it is a form of energy.
Time is a dimensional quality..not a quantity...though we often speak of time as something we run out of.
As a dimensional quality...it is purely of our mindful efforts
Divisions of length 'exists' only in our thoughts.
A distance traveled is metered for the sake of calculation
but the act of measurement does not generate mass nor speed.
I am aware that extreme speed or extreme gravity 'warp' our perceptions, and the calculations to understand such things suggest even greater inconceivable effects...but to treat time as mass or energy, is difficult to accept.
I see a digression coming. Perhaps a discussion about the singularity
could help?
thief

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thief
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Message 134 of 143 (495453)
01-22-2009 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by onifre
01-22-2009 12:44 AM


Hi Onifre
So...Geometrical concepts height, width, length,and time are required to understand complex events, and some events calculate to observations that may be difficult to deal with if exposed to them
At the speed of light, oncoming light sources would color shift, and no light source following you can be seen
You would have to deal with a perceptual warp
Some believe that time slows as the speed of light is approached.
Would you continue to age? A journey through space, would later bring you home to find all the people you knew, to be dead by several hundred years. Your perception of time would be warped.
I can think of one situation where time does not apply.
thief

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thief
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Message 137 of 143 (495896)
01-24-2009 11:07 PM


Thank you
Before I go...Onifre! message 134 isn't nonsense. It's a concept that was expressed by a scientist performing a science documentary on Albert Einstein.
NosyNed! at the slightest hint of complaint you threaten to suspend people. What (or who) do you think your protecting?
And yes of course, a discussion on expanding time should include some words on the effect of high velocities and their side effects.
Currently I can be found at ControversialForums.com
Farewell

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