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crashfrog
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Message 27 of 148 (312009)
05-15-2006 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by New Cat's Eye
05-15-2006 12:30 PM


re: what makes a scientist?
What would you call a person who uses the scientific method properly in their work but isn't developing and testing theory?
"Crashfrog". No, really, that's almost exactly what I do for the USDA. My job title is "Biological Research Aid."
So, maybe you'd call them an "aid"? Or "assistant"?

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crashfrog
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Message 33 of 148 (312104)
05-15-2006 5:39 PM
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05-15-2006 1:34 PM


re: what makes a scientist?
Are you reporting your results to someone else who is analyzing them?
Yeah. I plant and infest experiments according to my boss's design, take data, enter and email it to my boss. I don't develop or test hypotheses, I don't have any advanced expertiese in the fields of either agronomy or entomology. I can actually post my government job description, if you like.
Obviously, I don't do all of the scientific method; really, I assist with the middle two steps - I perform the experiments and I record the data. I don't develop hypotheses, analyze data, or publish. My boss does those things.
But I work in the technical service department and most of the experiments I do are from questions that customers are asking. So, its up to me to design the experiment, obtain the results, and report them to the customer. If we were a bigger company, my job might be done by three people, if there was an aid or a tech in the lab.
What kind of experiments are these, exactly?

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crashfrog
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Message 36 of 148 (312207)
05-15-2006 9:18 PM
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05-15-2006 5:48 PM


re: what makes a scientist?
Don't feel bad, crash. By EZ's and schraf's definitions, I'm evidently not a scientist either.
Well, I guess I don't feel bad. Just because I'm not a scientist doesn't mean that I'm not a part of the pursuit of science. That's something that I'm excited about, every day. I'm like the guy with the broom who's building a cathedral.

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crashfrog
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Message 44 of 148 (312356)
05-16-2006 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Quetzal
05-15-2006 11:42 PM


Re: It's actually a bit silly
You sound like a scientist to me, and moreover, what you do doesn't sound inconsistent with Schraf's definition.
Maybe she'll clarify. I mean it sounds like you develop theory to me. Little-t theory, but surely Schraf did not mean to restrict the term to the one or two geniuses who come up with enormous scientific frameworks like "evolution" or "relativity", don't you think? I hope she'll clarify.

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