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ReverendDG
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Message 176 of 304 (357394)
10-19-2006 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by Buzsaw
10-18-2006 8:35 PM


You were'nt in the seminar. I was and he used evolutionist theory extensively to make his points. As I said early in the thread, this man debates evolutionists. Do you think he would challenge debate having little knowledge of evo?
yes, yes i would. many people on this board challenge evolutionary theory without knowing a damn thing about it, ICR,DI and tons of YECS do this everyday
Incidentally, next time you hear a creationist propagandist qsI don't know the extent of his guppy research. I didn't ask the details. You claiming that he "used to be an evolutionist", ask him what the theory of evolution is. I always do, and they always turn out to be liars.
I agree with DA, not to pick on faith, but on many occations she said she was an evolutionist then changed to a YEC later in life, but she really doesn't seem to know much about evolution
I don't know the extent of his guppy research. I didn't ask the details. You may email him if you wish. My point for the purpose of this thead is that he is an IDist creo scientist doing science.
i'm confused, what does trying to refute specification have anything to do with ID or creationism?
this is part of the problem buz, the creationist "scientists" arn't really doing anything with creationism, what your example is doing is simply trying to test that part of the theory, though as far as i can tell not very well, but still what he is doing has nothing to do with eather ID or creationism
he could be an evolutionist and still do what he is doing.
what people are asking is, is there anyone doing anything to test the mechanics of ID or to test the mechanics of creationism, like the flood or showing intelligent design.
this would be science, the testing of the hypthosis or theory you are trying to show as an explanation through evidence
showing part of evolution is faulty is needed, but as i and a lot of people have said, showing a part of one theory is wrong doesn't make another right
he isn't doing IDist or creation science he's just trying to refute something in evolution, its not the same tihng

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ReverendDG
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Message 253 of 304 (358459)
10-24-2006 3:35 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Buzsaw
10-23-2006 8:44 PM


Re: Buzsaw ICR Science Link
Then why is this place called EvC (Evolution vs Creationism)? There remains no debate here and no creo science participation as per your Forum Guidelines. I said it before and I say it again. Ban all creationists from all science forums and post it up front on your home page that creos are welcome here but stay out of science. CREATIONISM AND INTELLIGENT DESIGN ARE NOT SCIENCE. THEY ARE RELIGIOUS ONLY
like its been said there is a debate, its a debate about creationism being science, thats the whole point. creationists think they do science and ignore people asking them to show them science that isn't twisted and wrong
if there was a creationist who knew about evolution and science they could debate in the science forums without problems, no creationist has shown this.
I say close this thread now, save us all a lot of work and time and save your site all this bandwith for evo vs evo science debate and discussion. I see this as a waste of my time.
why? because we don't accept your claims? you expect that from people that keep tell you that scientists are more stubborn when it comes to scientists making claims?
i guess you agree then that creationism is a religious argument and should stay out of schools? along with ID?

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