Forum: Christian Ideology

This is just a lawyer trick..Christianity is responsible for the escape of Janet Jackson's breast at the superbowl and the huge interest in this controversy. Christianity is responsible for the failure of Christians to appraise the jewelry on her nipple....you have no overall appraisal that does not say that Christianity is not responsible for the holocaust, the failure of scientists to study the existence of SPAM (the canned meat not email), and why people from Nganjuk are unable to post coherently at EvC. Don't bother posting any "textbooks" or "papers" since I am too lazy to read but will cling to my prejudices and repeat my accusations about your morality endlessly.regards,
Mam "igorance is the key" muthus

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You are lying, the thread is just another attempt by bigoted Darwinist fanatics to dismiss comprehensive historical research into how Darwinism influenced intellectual climate of opinion.

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...which you have never read yourself. You even lied and claimed that the last part of the sentence Mr. Hambre quoted from Mein Kampf said something it did not i.e. you are a revisionist. What is amazing about your revisionism is that one normally has to read the original to revise it..you just make up all sides of the argument as you go along.If you want to know about eugnenics you can read Daniel Kevles In the Name of Eugenics, and the references contained within...but you don't want to know about eugenics. You don't actually want to know anything since you have made your mind up about how the world is no matter how much evidence contradicts the view you hope to maintain by staying isolated in Nganjuk and isolated in your brain by ignorance...but that is ok since you described yourself in your post to Mr. Hambre

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You are just playing the dunce of course, talking like you do, I hope that's understood by everyone. I hope it's understood that no single historian would give you the time of day, you're just acting as a complete idiot, which maybe has some perverse entertainment value to some people.

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...Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most loony fundie of them all?Now back on topic...how are you going to defend Christianity for its pervasive role in Nazi ideology? Christian symbolism and direct reference to Christianity pervade Mein Kampf. How can you ignore the influence of christian ideology on the holocaust? How do you explain away the quote Mr. Hambre posted? ...right back at you..I am sure a completely unresearched, halfwitted, and unintentionally humorous reply is on its way.regards,
Mam "Who needs evidence? muthus

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I would stay out of it, if other people confronted these odious fanatics about their sick attitude towards the science of history

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Yeah those odious people who actually READ the history...what a stupid thing to do..actually knowing about things. Glad to see Syamsu escaped that trap.

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1. Most of what you mentioned as subjects aren't Christian fundamentals and don't reflect the teaching of the Christ of Christianity. Thus they are not even Christian.

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I am sure in your daily life you do many things that do not reflect the teaching of the christ of christianity...so I guess that means you are not a christian either. This type of logic is the hardest to fathom. Almost all christians wish to lay claim to the title of christian, yet each and every one of them think the other is not a "true" christian. It makes for a nice slippery substrate on which to base ones ethics and morality..."stole 20 bucks from a co worker..well I'm a true christian and he is not so who cares?" And if the person admits they did something wrong..."well, I am a christian but I am full of sin...but I am still a christian..unlike that other guy who also sinned but is not a true christian".

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2. Fundamentalism is a relative word which can apply to evolutionists, Christians, mechanics, pilots, anything. When I fly, I like fundie pilots who go by the fundamentals of their books on flying and fundie mechanics to keep them up. Fundamental Christians also go by the NT book -- no violence. So do the Jehadistic Muslims -- violence.

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Evolutionary biologists refine, change, overturn, and discover new aspects of biology all the time. A textbook from 10 years ago is way out of date today. Hard to be a fundie in an ever progressing field. And if your mechanic is a dogmatic mechanic fundie and encounters a problem not found in their textbook, you can have my seat on the plane....as to the non violent fundamentalist christians...you will have to show me how those guys non-violently kill people at Planned Parenthood, or how they non-violently murder homosexuals, or non-violently go to war, all justified by their holy text.Mam "fundie of sex toys" muthus

You could even take it a step further. If all of the "true" christians are not actually christians, then the religion is effectively extinct. It is the Esperanto of world religion according to buz. Also, all the "world will end tomorrow" guys were right. According to buz, the "true" christian world is gone and the prophesized second coming never occurred. I guess it makes the evolution vs. creation arguement largely irrelevant

bumpSyamsu avoided the question

I know I know...it is shocking and completely out of character. Usually Syamsu responds with well thought out, well researched, and internally consistent posts backed up with reams of supporting references that give his responses such gripping coherency.

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Christ dying on the cross for sins, or Christ being redeemed on the cross for mankind

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What a laywer trick. You are comparing ants and elephants reproducing. Comparisons are bad. Why not look at differential death on the cross? You chrisitian ideologists always ignore this. It is clearly underdeveloped. A guy I think I know read in a review of a Nganjuk travel brochure that this was true. I would look it up but I don't have time, in between doing laundry and cleaning my stomach with sterno, to be an intellectual. But you have not countered my field wide appraisal that christian ideology suppresses things and is responsible for the holocaust and FC Bayern having a crap season. Besides, all my evidence I posted in some thread somewhere and you never addressed it. You should all go away.