The truth about the mainstream cosmologist establishment

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Ok, here is one for size. Evolution is based on the ASSUMPTION that a creator can not exist. It is based on the ASSUMPTION that if you have a certain condition for an x amount of time, simple chemical molucules can actually evolve into a complex single cell organism. So far, I know of no experiment that has proven that this is possible. It is very easy to make a lay man believe this, but any biologist that KNOWS the complexity of a single celled organism would dare to try and explain HOW EXACTLY THIS IS POSSIBLE. The starting point of all live, acording evolusionism, is therefore a hypothesis, not a theory.

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1) Evolution theory says nothing about a creator either way.2) The rest of those has not at all to do with the theory of evolution. Do you think it's not a good idea to actually understand what the TOE actualy says before you try and debate about it?

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What I'd like to know is, how much of you who've awnsered, has the credensials of the writer of this website? Can you say you know as much about plasmas and electricity as he does? non, I presume. How many was willing to actually read this guy's theory on galaxy and stellar formation, and with an open mind at that? Non I presume.

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Ah the appeal to authority - applying that logic, his theory must be wrong because there are people out there who know more and have better qualifications.EDIT: Ned - I cannot get to a 2nd page either.Looking at the page source there is not a link to one.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 26 January 2005 02:47 AM

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You should've become a politician. I can't recall how many documentaries I've seen that make this bold statement, and now that you are put on the spot, all of a sudden evolution is no longer about the origin of live? Fair enough.

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Oh well if it was on the telly..... It's not ALL OF A SUDDEN - Evolution has NEVER been about the origins of life.NEVER NEVER NEVER.Please go away and learn the basics.

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As I recall this forum has an entire section on the origin of live. If this is not covered in evolution theory, then that topic doesn't even belong here. If I've got some time, I might go and see what people wrote there. But the point is ... and I'm sure you'll agree ... that live has only two possible origins: either it was created by a Creator that exists outside and independantly from the universe, or it must've come about by all by itself. Since there is no proof that the latter is possible, you can not exactly blame a guy for believing the former, right? RIGHT???

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Right but still nothing to do with evolution.

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By the way. Let me just tell you something about that website you guys should've realised yourself. When two scientists talk about something complicated, they talk in complicated terms and difficult formulas. However, when they want to explain it to the lay person, they ditch the formulas, and only explain the concept in understandeble language. In case you haven't noticed, this website is the latter. But, I wonder if any of you noticed the "Links" hyperlink.

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Listen to what we are telling you - that website has some bad code on it - the "links" hyperlink does not WORK - only the link to the basics of science page is good.If you have this stored on your own machine it will (and I suspect you do) because the link is relative and points to a place on your hard drive - not of us can access it.

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If you were real scientists, you would've investigate this issue further before dismissing it after reading just one web page (no doubt with a LOT of prejadice as well) But you're not interested in finding out if there is a better model to explain the universe, you're only interested in holding on to your old models.

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Get the website fixed and we COULD actually look at what you are on about.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 26 January 2005 07:24 AM

To add to what you have said Admin (and reinforce an earlier comment of mine). We are currently unable to fully assess the website as due to bad code only the first page (and a link to a university page on the basics of science) are available for viewing.

I've taken another look - the problem is (and I suspect that this may be the same for Ned).... I'm too advanced.While you people are stuck in the last century with internet explorer,some of us have moved to the 21st with browsers such as firefox.So if you want to access the links use internet explorer (the shame....).