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crashfrog

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Message 8 of 132 (180488)
01-25-2005 3:36 PM

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01-25-2005 12:24 PM

In this model, PLASMA AND ELECTRICITY, NOT GRAVITY, IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE.

Electromagnetic forces fall off at the square of the distance. Gravity falls off linear to the distance. Given this observable fact, how can your model be accurate?

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Message 13 of 132 (180522)
01-25-2005 4:41 PM

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01-25-2005 4:02 PM

You can pretty much count on anything that projects itself into 3D spacing dropping off by the square of the distance.

Oh.

Well, how is it then that gravity, while weaker, has a longer-range effect? A small hand magnet can overcome the attraction of the entire planet Earth but only within a quarter-inch. The gravity of the Earth holds satellites in its sway 36,000 KM away.

I'm a physics idiot, and I welcome the chance to pose questions to people who know. Percy, you just volunteered.

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Message 16 of 132 (180533)
01-25-2005 5:14 PM

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01-25-2005 5:10 PM

Oh. Cool.

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Message 43 of 132 (180811)
01-26-2005 11:55 AM

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01-26-2005 11:46 AM

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Did we ever witness a species (macro, since bacteria can interbreed with different species) develop something totally new?

As a matter of fact, we have - a population of a unicellular blue-green algae evolved multicellularity:

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Coloniality in Chlorella vulgaris

Boraas (1983) reported the induction of multicellularity in a strain of Chlorella pyrenoidosa (since reclassified as C. vulgaris) by predation. He was growing the unicellular green alga in the first stage of a two stage continuous culture system as for food for a flagellate predator, Ochromonas sp., that was growing in the second stage. Due to the failure of a pump, flagellates washed back into the first stage. Within five days a colonial form of the Chlorella appeared. It rapidly came to dominate the culture. The colony size ranged from 4 cells to 32 cells. Eventually it stabilized at 8 cells. This colonial form has persisted in culture for about a decade. The new form has been keyed out using a number of algal taxonomic keys. They key out now as being in the genus Coelosphaerium, which is in a different family from Chlorella.

Boraas, M. E. 1983. Predator induced evolution in chemostat culture. EOS. Transactions of the American Geophysical Union. 64:1102.

if this Creator created single celled organisms, what is stopping Him from forming macro life as well?

Nothing, but if he's content to develop new species through a process that looks identical to evolution, shouldn't we humor him and discuss it in the same way?

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Message 69 of 132 (181153)
01-27-2005 5:08 PM

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01-26-2005 12:40 PM

I was hoping you'd come over to What's not Macro about Chlorella v? and join in a discussion of your response.

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