The truth about the mainstream cosmologist establishment

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Let me tell you what it looks like from where I'm standing: You have a mainstream gravity theory, which requires a vast amount of "misterious, undetectable dark matter" to actually work, and you have a simple theory that actually uses known forces of nature, without the need of hocus pocus dark matter and other invensions. But I am supposed to believe in this stuff that doesn't exist?

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What you seem ont to understand is that the vast majority of "mainstream scientists" had exactly the same initial reaction to the idea of dark matter. From my own reading, dark matter spent at lerast 10 years as an uncomfortable hypothesis that many scientists didn't like at all.But the problem is it does provide some answers to questions. Even for those who don't actually like the idea, if the theory fits the data it fits the data. One of these bits of data is that certain properties of the universe are inexplicable without there being a lot more mass in it than we can actually see.

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I'd like to direct your attension to another website : holoscience.com | The ELECTRIC UNIVERSE – A sound cosmology for the 21st century This website also has comments on new discoveries with puzzles cosmologists. Ofcause, the scientists who accept the electric universe model is not supprised by these phenomena. In fact, they EXPECT it.

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So lets have a look at what some people EXPECT, shall we?Holoscience.com has an interesting page on Titan, which of course has been much in the news lately. Citing New Scientist, Holoscience says:

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Comment: The idea that Titan may have a considerable amount of low density liquids or ices came originally from calculations of its density. However, estimates of the composition of celestial bodies assume that we understand the real nature of gravity. We obviously don’t. So there is no reason to assume that the gravitational constant, ‘G,’ is the same for all bodies in the universe, particularly when it is the most elusive ‘constant’ to measure on Earth. So we cannot be confident about the calculated ratio of rock to ices on Titan. But the presence of methane in Titan’s atmosphere seemed to require an ocean of liquid hydrocarbons as a reservoir that could provide a source of that gas lasting for the conventional age of the solar system. However, the radar image of Titan fits more closely (as we shall see) with some of those returned by the Magellan Orbiter from dry and rocky Venus. The methane puzzle has not been solved.

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In fact there are good reasons for thinking the gravitaional constant G is the same for all bodies. Thats why its called a CONSTANT. This raises serious doubts as to the writers competence.But setting that aside, lets see what is being argued here: that the calculations used to predict liquid methane on Titan are invalid. This is related to the general claims about the electric universe. This is all pasrt of an argument aimed at showing that the present geological models are mistaken.That was wwritten in Nov 2004. Now Cassini/Hygens, and what did we find? Liquid methane, as predicted by standard models.See here: ESA - Cassini-HuygensNote how the author of holoscience gleefully predicts that becuase some radr scans showed no liquids, we would be looking at a ocompletely dry planetoid with no methane oceans. It's all very clearly wrong.You keep banging on about people just "believeing" things without questions. If we really did that, nobody would have bothered sending a probe to Titan in the first place. We went becuase doing so would confirm or refute our theories, and either of those is a good result.It will be interesting to see whether holoscience has the honesty to admit it was wrong.

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The results of this forensic research by a very few adventurous scholars are unequivocal, unexpected and disturbing. If we could see it, our prehistoric sky would stupefy us with its unfamiliarity. Mars and Venus moved close to the Earth and met in apparent combat wielding thunderbolts. The spectacular patterns of interplanetary lightning were commemorated globally in petroglyphs, monumental works and cultural traditions.

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Aha. So this is an Olde Skool Catastrophist argument.Furthermore they assert "forensic research" by a group call Aeon:
"AEON is a journal of myth, science, and ancient history specializing in archaeoastronomy and.comparative mythology."In other words.... THIS IS NOT SCIENCE.