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Originally posted by Punisher:
Bottom line is this, and I think it applies for all posts on this board. The two sides of this debate start with different presuppositions. Mine are as non-negotioable as yours. We will always arrive at different conclusions.
JM: Oh dear, this is simply a cop-out commonly used by young earth creationists. Science started with many of the same presuppositions you claim to hold today. For example, nearly two+ centuries ago, naturalists thought the world was young and fossils were testament to a global flood. After careful examination and repeated testing of their presuppositions, they concluded that no flood occurred and that the earth was significantly older than they previously thought. Your presuppositions (as you noted) are dogmatic assertions. Science, on the other hand, changes as more information comes along. While modern geology operates under certain presuppositions, we also test each of those presuppositions on an daily basis and modify them in light of new data. So far, creationists have turned a blind eye on the data whilst clinging to the notion of a literal bible. I've said it before and I'll say it again--creationists worship the bible as god rather than the god of the bible.
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Joe Meert