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Author Topic:   Implied by YEC? Most science is faulty?
Joe Meert
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Message 21 of 36 (6314)
03-08-2002 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Punisher
03-08-2002 9:32 AM


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Originally posted by Punisher:

Bottom line is this, and I think it applies for all posts on this board. The two sides of this debate start with different presuppositions. Mine are as non-negotioable as yours. We will always arrive at different conclusions.

JM: Oh dear, this is simply a cop-out commonly used by young earth creationists. Science started with many of the same presuppositions you claim to hold today. For example, nearly two+ centuries ago, naturalists thought the world was young and fossils were testament to a global flood. After careful examination and repeated testing of their presuppositions, they concluded that no flood occurred and that the earth was significantly older than they previously thought. Your presuppositions (as you noted) are dogmatic assertions. Science, on the other hand, changes as more information comes along. While modern geology operates under certain presuppositions, we also test each of those presuppositions on an daily basis and modify them in light of new data. So far, creationists have turned a blind eye on the data whilst clinging to the notion of a literal bible. I've said it before and I'll say it again--creationists worship the bible as god rather than the god of the bible.
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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5708 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 24 of 36 (6321)
03-08-2002 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Punisher
03-08-2002 1:09 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Punisher:
How is this a fact given that no one has been around for a thousand years to watch it form?
JM: How about this. Do you know that no one was around to see who killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman? Yet, police have a pretty good idea of who committed the act. Did you know that no one was around to see trilobites crawling on the ocean floor, but we have a pretty good idea that they did. No one was around to watch the Deccan traps erupt onto the surface of the earth, but we have a pretty good idea that they did. No one was around to see the meteor hit in Arizona, but we have a pretty good idea that one did hit. This logic is just plain silly. Tell me that young earth creationists have stronger arguments than this!
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Joe Meert

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