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RetroCrono
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Message 1 of 33 (6450)
03-10-2002 2:54 AM


Is there such a thing as true choice?
I want more the people who construct there thoughts through scientific backing as I already know what most others will say. Seriously, I cannot make sense of this 'choice', it baffles me. Does it exist?

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RetroCrono
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Message 3 of 33 (6458)
03-10-2002 6:51 AM


Just choice in general, does it even exist? If everythings bound by structural naturalistic laws than how can such a thing exist? Even for the incredibly complex human mind, how can it work out of the realms of what it's bound by?
I need some insight...

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RetroCrono
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Message 10 of 33 (6642)
03-12-2002 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by joz
03-10-2002 1:04 PM


quote:
Originally posted by joz:
The clockwork universe died in the early 20th century at the hands of Heisenburg, Schrodinger and co......
No, that has nothing to do with that. Doesn't everything in energy work by cause and effect? Some things are unpredictable, however every effect still came from a cause, whether we understand it or not. Therefore how can humans exist in energy but function differently. Every single action you take and every single choice you seem to partake in comes from some sought of cause. Seriously, is this choose, or an illusion of choose?
[This message has been edited by RetroCrono, 03-12-2002]

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RetroCrono
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Message 12 of 33 (6718)
03-13-2002 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by joz
03-12-2002 9:09 AM


Thanks for your thoughts joz, I'm going to have to look into this more before I can properly get my thoughts together on the subject. However, if free choice is real, you do realise that allows God to be an all loving God.

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RetroCrono
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Message 14 of 33 (6796)
03-14-2002 6:14 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by joz
03-13-2002 9:51 AM


quote:
Originally posted by joz:
WTF do you mean? When you say free choice do you mean free will?
Ah...yea, that's what I meant, just don't bite my head off now.

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