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doctrbill
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Message 14 of 111 (19920)
10-15-2002 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mammuthus
10-15-2002 8:58 AM


quote:
gene90
... teaching things other than evolution does not lower the standards, it simply give the students more things to learn. .

quote:
mammuthus
panspermia has been falsified so there would be no reason to teach it ... any more than there is a reason to teach Aristotle's theories of nature as up to date science.

I studied a California accredited course in biology at a Christian college, but theories of Aristotle which are pertinent to the "science" of Genesis were not brought forward.
The Book of Genesis predates Aristotle by a few hundred years and reveals theories which were already out of date when the oral traditions were committed to writing.
It was not until I understood ancient ideas of Origin, including those of Aristotle, that I came to see how the Book of Genesis, although certainly outdated now, was at one time quite nicely aligned with the standard "science" of the ancient world.
I suspect that if people were aware of the similarities, there might be less conflict between science and religion. Or is this naieve of me?
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doctrbill
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Message 17 of 111 (19978)
10-15-2002 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by nos482
10-15-2002 11:05 AM


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Originally posted by nos482:
Wasn't the Book of Genesis the last book added to the bible?
Got me there! I know that it was not the first, but I am unaware of its place in the order of addition. Not that it matters much I think.
I recently acquired a Greek/English version of the Septuagint. This is the Bible which was popular among Greek speaking Jews in the time of Jesus (which was most of them), and among early Christians everywhere. In concept, it was like the New International Version of the time.
I have been pleased to discover that some of the wording in Genesis appears to clarify what, for many, has been mysterious in the Hebrew and unintelligible in the English. Best example so far is found in verse 2 of chapter 1. Where the English reads "earth was without form and void," the Greek reads aoratos kai akataskevastos (sorry, I don't know how to show Greek letters here).
The translator renders this - unsightly and unfurnished. Prior to this reading I had interpreted the Hebrew tohu bohu to mean undeveloped and uninhabited. I still prefer my personal take on it.
This additional peek at the ancient understanding of Genesis only sharpens my axe. Nowhere in the Bible is earth mentioned in any way or in any context which would suggest that anyone at the time was aware of it "planethood".
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