Time Machine

The is no such 'thing' as time, it is merely the fourth measure of motion.You cannot travel back in something that does not exist.Time is our own construct.There never can and never will be 'time travel'.We do not even travel forward in time, time is entirely extent.There are no theories in Science that can give structure to time.[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-22-2004]

Faulted to say the least.

Phi, simply that time does not exist.Everything that is around you is simply energy, not just the cables that lead to your computer but you and the table your computer sits upon is energy, the 'difference' that you perceive between that stuff in the cable and the other 'harder' stuff that makes you and the table is that one is unbound by other energies, everything that exists is held in sway by these great forces, these forces act upon energy to produce the very fabric of all you perceive.Time has no energy component, it therefore does not physically exist, it is a 'construct' an 'abstract' we use to determine and and relate things.While we are at it, we may as well nail the other great 'stupidity' of modern times...Space does not exist.This at first seems hard to believe, but think for a moment, I am not saying that there is not 'distance' between things in the Universe as there patently is.But space again as an entity does not physically exist, it is nothingness thru which bound energy [matter] and unbound energy [light] can travel.So now we can nail the last dumb phrase that I wish were consigned to the History.Spacetime... as both parts do not exist, it does not exist.We are bound by our Physicality, we move thru Physical things, we can't move thru the non-physical, because that only exists in our imagination, the same half-ahsed place god [s] came from.[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-22-2004]

That is the worst corruption, to your own end, of Relativity I have read for a while.

We can't bend space and travel through foreshortened worm holes there is no space to bend. That means it can't be foreshortened.We can't jump to other dimensional planes for time travel, space is nothingness, therefore it has none of the attributes of dimensionality.Put 2 objects on the table in front of you, take out a tape measure and record the distance between them, have you actually measured 'space' or the relationship of one to the other.Are you getting the picture?

Your english is fine, it is your train of thought that is muddled.Let me put it simply...If we could travel as a quantum of energy [the speed of light]... where is time?The simple answer... it's not there.It's not there because it's not an attribute of energy.Because it's not an attribute of energy, it can have no physical properties to manipulate.This means that time can't fundementally effect energy and energy can't fundementally effect time.

Time travel cannot be mathematically feasible because we have no mathematics for time!

This is 'Real World Physics' gravity does not bend space.I will explain further...What is bent is energy-matter, this is what really exists.Spacetime is a misnomer.For the path of energy to curve, it must be curved by one of energy's own physical forces.If space [nothingness] acted on energy to curve its path, then something with no physical attributes [physical force] is acting on physical things.You are not measuring space and time, space and time are the measurements.The grid, continuum and the manifold of "spacetime" are only abstract methods of measurement that do not exist in the real cosmos.In the same way that the longitude and lattitude grid on a globe of the earth do not really exist, the space grid doesn't either, they our way to measure and have location references for both ships and spaceships.When we start objectifying space and time, we often make the mistake of trying to manipulate them, as if they have physical attributes.Edited to make it less intellectually 'challenging'[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-22-2004]

The above is basic quantum theory made simple, I would expect any of my post-gradutes to know this.

Read the above.

Read the link and realise that he is saying the same as me, it is merely a measurement, it has no existence in itself.

The observations are exactly what I am using, it is you that have not the depth to see what is before you.The myth of time travel is based on the lazy minded approach of most humans to measurement concepts.
This results in treating the dimensions [all four] as if they are components of existence that manipulate energy and matter and, in turn, can potentially be manipulated themselves.[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-22-2004]

The first one was better...

It at least had some real content and the 'merit' of being correct.

It is an observation, don't take it too much to heart.I have explained that time is not physical, it has no energy, it is a measurement that allows us to put things in order.Try this, it might guide you along the path some more.We have a Government, but Government does not exist does it.You can walk to the The Houses of Parliament/Congress and there is a Government Building we can meet our MPs'/Congressmen but ask any of them 'Where is the Government' and you will get a blank look, the poor fellow wil likely wave his arm around and say 'This is it', because Government is also an abstract, 'a' Government is real, but that is as far as it goes.That is what is wrong with your thinking, just because you conceptualise something in your mind it does not make it have physical reality.Time and Space are the same, they are only the tools for description, like 'Miles per hour'Are you any closer yet?[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-22-2004]