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Sylas
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Message 80 of 117 (95564)
03-29-2004 5:33 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by V-Bird
03-29-2004 4:18 AM


Re: Need a Clear Explanation
V-Bird writes:
Any clearer?
Shrug. It's just wrong.
You can't make up your own meanings for terms, or just string together random terms and expect to be profound.
The four forces are not a part of EMR. EMR is a well defined term, and it does not include the weak force, the strong force, or gravity. EMR is light radiation, made of up photons. You don't get the other forces by altering phase or polarity, or incident angles, or any of those other things.
Cheers -- Sylas

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Sylas
Member (Idle past 5290 days)
Posts: 766
From: Newcastle, Australia
Joined: 11-17-2002


Message 95 of 117 (95651)
03-29-2004 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by V-Bird
03-29-2004 7:49 AM


V-Bird writes:
I am fascinated as to where Sylas believes the four forces eminate?, where do they appear from?, how do they turn EMR into matter?
The forces arise from particle interactions; each force has different mediating particles. This is not about me; this is just basic particle physics, which you can read about in a good library.
A good on-line reference for the fundamental forces is Fundamental Forces, which is part of the hyper-physics on-line reference at Georgia State University. I use it frequently as a reference.
EMR means electromagnetic radiation... light, in other words; which is made up of photons. Photons are the mediating particle of one of the four fundamental forces; the electromagnetic force. It is the force associated with charged particles, and is a very long range force.
The next fundamental force is the weak nuclear force. This is a very short range force, mediated by W and Z bosons. It is involved in some radioactive decay processes, like beta decay.
The electroweak theory was developed in the sixties, and unified the electromagnetic force (which is associated with EMR) and the weak force into a single unified description. The 1979 Nobel prize went to Glashow, Salam and Weinberg for this achievement.
In this unified model, photons, and W and Z bosons are treated in a single unified framework. The model proposes that at very very high temperatures, these particles all behaved in much the same way.
Unification has nothing at all to do with phase differences or any of the other nonsense we've seen in the thread.
The strong force is the force which holds an atomic nucleus together. It has a small range, about the size of an atomic nucleus. This is still much longer range than the weak force. The mediating particles of this force are pions and gluons.
The Grand Unification is the as yet unrealised hope for a single unified description of the strong force with the electroweak force. Contrary to the implications in this thread, this is a major problem receiving the concentrated attention of physics community. It is likely to be solved in time; and the solution will be almost a certainty for a Nobel prize.
V-Bird's fluff is, to put it mildly, an outside chance for being recognized as the basis for a solution to the problems of unification...
Gravity is the last force; the weakest, but dominant over large scales of the universe. The mediating particle, predicted but so far not observed, is the graviton. The holy grail of particle physics is Unification of gravity with the other forces. We are a long way from solving this one.
The creation of matter occurs as very high energy force-mediating particles form particle anti-particle pairs of matter particles. This requires energies available in the very early universe; and has also been observed and studied using very high energy linear accelerators.
Cheers -- Sylas
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