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RAZD

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Message 1 of 22 (465149)
05-03-2008 4:41 PM

Miley Cyrus picture and the silly uproar over her overexposure picture ...

First, I think bare backs are one of the sexiest parts of a well formed female.

This picture makes me think of a child wrapped in a towel after swimming.

What's your take?

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Message 7 of 22 (465251)
05-04-2008 1:30 PM

Reply to: Message 4 by Taz
05-04-2008 1:09 AM

I agree with the blogger who said that the picture with her dad is more disturbing. I don't see him posing that way with a 15 yr old son ...

Is it about subliminal sexual image, or advertising gone wild?

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Message 9 of 22 (465253)
05-04-2008 1:44 PM

Reply to: Message 3 by Rrhain
05-04-2008 1:01 AM

Oh, it's clearly beyond that, but she's old enough to be in high school. She's not a little girl.

I can still see "baby fat" in her face in that picture, and the back to me is not fully mature (a little skinny?), and then there is something subtle in carriage\position (back arch) that to me adds up to child.

The makeup is nothing more of an indicator of age than it was on Jon-Benet Ramses

Of course there is the issue of sexual selection for young (childish looking?) women ...

erm, enjoy?

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Message 16 of 22 (465268)
05-04-2008 4:08 PM

Reply to: Message 15 by Straggler
05-04-2008 3:07 PM

as wife or mistress?

But if ther are men (esp rich powerful sexually desirable men) that find female submissiveness and even the physical sexual objectification of women to be 'sexy' is it realistic to expect women to rise above this and not seek to to be sexually attractive to these men on these terms?

Especially as this can be advantageous to both from an evolutionary sense, the successful male gets access to young breeding females and the females get access to resources and protection for them and offspring.

This is why it could result in run-away sexual selection for creative\successful men and youthful\post-pubescent women.

... is it realistic to expect women to rise above this and not seek to to be sexually attractive to these men on these terms?

I think we both broadly agree that this is not what either of us ideally would wish to see.

It's the difference between life-mates and sex-toys.

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Message 18 of 22 (465275)
05-04-2008 5:07 PM

Reply to: Message 17 by Straggler
05-04-2008 4:43 PM

Re: as wife or mistress?

Actually I would think it depends on whether sex-toy behavior with successful male was more successful than life-mate with non-successful male behavior.

It may only last for breeding years for sex-toys unless they can garner some guarantees ("diamonds are a girl's best friend") ...

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