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Author Topic:   Reagan May Have Died, Cannot Recall At This Time
Chiroptera
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Message 22 of 109 (113458)
06-07-2004 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Ricka
06-07-2004 11:15 PM


This is interesting.
quote:
This is rude, one should not critisize the dead.
It must be interesting listening to you discuss historical events.

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Chiroptera
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Message 42 of 109 (113603)
06-08-2004 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by berberry
06-08-2004 4:25 AM


Re: There You Go Again
quote:
I simply acknowledged that some people, myself included, will observe a period of mourning for those we respect or those whose families we respect.
Now you seem to be sending mixed signals here. Do we only observe a period of mourning for those we respect? I have no respect whatsoever for Reagan. Am I therefore exempted from a period of mourning? If so, then what are you complaining about? If not, then do you advocate a "decent" period of mourning for everyone? Timothy McVeigh, Osama bin Laden, Milosevic as well? I recall you saying that you would exempt "murderers and rapists" from a "decent" period of mourning. Some of us would also exempt war criminals like Reagan. Who exactly gets a "decent" period of mourning, and who doesn't?

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Chiroptera
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Message 43 of 109 (113607)
06-08-2004 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Mammuthus
06-08-2004 5:39 AM


Re: There You Go Again
Thanks, Mammuthus. I came in this morning intending to make this very point. You saved me the trouble. You also expressed it much less confrontationally than I would have.

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Chiroptera
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Message 46 of 109 (113612)
06-08-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by sfs
06-08-2004 1:00 PM


Re: It's Just Spurious
Considering that the current picture on the US $20 bill is that of an ethnic cleanser extraordinaire, would Reagan's picture be any worse?

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Chiroptera
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Message 53 of 109 (113625)
06-08-2004 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by sfs
06-08-2004 1:33 PM


Re: Buddy, Can You Spare a Dime?
quote:
There is a hoary tradition of lying, if only by omission, when eulogizing the dead. Normally it doesn't do much harm, but when the eulogies serve a partisan political purpose the situaion is different.
Especially when it appears on the front page of what we in the U.S. euphemistically call our "news" media, rather than the op-ed page. People without access to actual news and facts might confuse the made-up accomplishments as real history.

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Chiroptera
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Message 73 of 109 (113914)
06-09-2004 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Ricka
06-09-2004 3:29 AM


Re: This is interesting.
quote:
quote:
The very least you could do is allow a time of mourning.
Oh, Im sorry. You must have missed that.
No, I saw it. It's just that you didn't mention the fact that the newspapers and television didn't observe any period of mourning before they began to offer a completely fabricated history of his administration.

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Chiroptera
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Message 75 of 109 (113916)
06-09-2004 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by berberry
06-09-2004 2:38 AM


Re: Why is this custom so hard to understand?
Sorry, you are correct, berberry. I guess I am arguing against Absholom's pig-ignorant unfortunate comments about how terrible "Yankees" are and the wonderful Southern customs of "courtesy" and "compassion".

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Chiroptera
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Message 76 of 109 (113917)
06-09-2004 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Dan Carroll
06-09-2004 1:58 PM


Re: This is interesting.
Pat Buchanan:
I've gotten balanced coverage and broad coverage - all we could have asked. ... For heaven sakes, we kid about the liberal media, but every republican on earth does that.

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Chiroptera
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Message 80 of 109 (113986)
06-09-2004 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by berberry
06-09-2004 4:43 PM


berberry,
I think that your initial mis-interpretation of Dan's title is understandable, and your objections would have been justified had it been correct.
I think that it would have been appropriate to have a dispassionate discussion about Reagan's legacy, both pro and con. Unfortunately, before that matter could have been resolved between you and Dan, too many people entered into the fray with belligerant attitudes. Me, too, of course, but I have always found it amazing how people who have such passionate feelings about their views could be surprised that others with the opposite views can be equally passionate. In regards to a certain early post, I don't believe even in the South people would ignore "fightin' words".
At any rate, although I'm not sure whether I agree with you, I certainly respect the view that a certain interval should have passed before either side began to gush their feelings about Reagan. I think a dispassionate discussion would have been appropriate, but perhaps in view of the feelings the late former president evokes on both sides that wouldn't have been possible.

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