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JustinC
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Message 16 of 68 (64514)
11-05-2003 8:04 AM


Buz, can someone explain to me why an eternal, omnipotent, and omniscient being would have a male or female sexual organ?
Or do you make the distinction between gender and sex? Gender being male or female, and sex being man or woman. Of course,though, the only way you can do that is to live in a specific culture in which you can reference gender characteristics with a certain sex. Then you could have a certain woman act like the majority of men and call her a male woman.
Do all the Abrahmic religions just mean that God is male(gender)compared to their culture? Or that God is a man(sex)?
Also, I don't see why an eternal deity would be pissed off when someone calls it "she", considering it doesn't show itself and that it doesn't make sense for an eternal deity to have a sex. And if in some cultures the attributes of God in the Bible are those of majority of women, or the attributes don't necessarily indicate a sex, I don't see why it would mind being called he/she/it.
JustinC

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JustinC
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From: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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Message 51 of 68 (64743)
11-06-2003 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
11-05-2003 11:47 PM


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Understanding the god Jehovah is to read his book of over a thousand pages in which he's self depicted as male gender. Spirit deity needs nothing physical including specific body parts to determine gender.
Which is why I said, "Unless you seperate gender and sex." If there is one thing I learned from my cultural anthropology class, it is that in some cultures a male woman can be married to a female woman who can also be married to a male man who may or may not be married to a female man.
The only way it makes sense to speak of gender outside of sex is to reference a specific culture. In some cultures the men are feminized compared to our culture, and the woman are masculinized compared to our culture. He can be either or considering what culture you are from. So why would it be wrong to call God "she" if all of his characteristics are consistent with those of woman in my(speaking for a different culture)culture?
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Don't try to make him human. His inspired words says he's male, all 1000 + pages of them.
We are trying to figure out what it means for a being with no sex to be considered male. My best guess is what I stated previously: God is only male relative to a certain culture. What do you think it means?
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You wanta feminize him, go ahead at your own risk, but remember one thing........he also refers of himself as a "consuming fire" and he, the god of love, does get fed up eventually and becomes the god of wrath. Just a helpful warning from a friend. Ok?
I don't want to feminize him, I want to understand what it means for an eternal non-reproducing being to be male.
And I can sympthatize with God. The next time someone questions my gender (not my sex), I might be forced to consume them in fire. Should teach them a lesson.
JustinC

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