Take the Atheist Challenge!!!

Hello, Zac!
I actually came across this thread, and without boring you with the events that led up to it, last Tuesday, I did something I have not done in years; I prayed.
Not to Jesus, though. Just to god. It seemed that my prayer was answered, though I can say it also could have been a coincidence.
The point is, I did in fact 'feel' something and have been trying to reconcile it in
this thread.
I inadvertently took your challenge, but did not find Jesus; I think it may be god, in one way or another, but not as the bible defines him/her/it.

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Zac, you replied to Rrhain in message 101 that: It's been pointed out numerous times on thei forum that the Christian god is not the only choice. I am a Deist; I do not believe in the validity or accuracy of the Christian bible, but then again, I do not believe that god cannot be bound by paper and ink. I do however believe in god; no, my faith does not conflict with science (why should it?). Am I therefore, a devil worshipper? According to the above quote (and most Christian fundamentalists), I am.
I do not wish to attack you, but rather to defend Rrhain. He has not announced his faith or lack thereof yet, and it is because of intolerant attitudes like this that it took me years to arrive at my decision.
By the way, I do not even believe in satan; that is a biblical Christian invention, and one that I do not find neccesary.
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{Edited to correct grammatical and spelling errors - MB}This message has been edited by MonkeyBoy, 05-11-2004 06:45 AMThis message has been edited by MonkeyBoy, 05-11-2004 06:46 AM

In addition to being a recipient for the Patience of a Saint award, Rrhain also explained (more than once) it in a very concise and easy to understand manner.
Good job, Rrhain!

Agreed.
As far as your swelled head, it does look rather large, like a stop sign. :-)
I'll make my avatar a picture of me, shortly and you can see that you are not alone.
I like Lam's pic (of the hot female swordsman, er swordswoman).

How does one "speak" out of context, when they are the one doing the speaking? Just curious. Lol, well, what is the point in that? They believe, just not in the exact same way that you believe; it would be better then to be an atheist. No going to temple, no dietary restrictions and no having to learn hebrew.

River, if you are stating that you have not read an instance that an apology was not made by someone here that was proven wrong, you are mistaken. If most people on this forum post an incorrect date, name or any verifiable information, and they are corrected, then they apologize; judging from this and other statements that you have made, it seems you are under the impression that atheists and people that subscribe to ToE (not the same thing at all), are too full of pride to admit that they are wrong; in other words, they "know" that god exists, and that he created the world to the exclusion of ToE; but that they are involved in some sort of conspiracy to cover up the truth.I strongly believe in god AND I am certain, due to the large mountain of evidence, that life evolved. I do not see a conflict with this.Just my 2 .

Actually, I think that Rrhain's explanations were right on; in what way was his explanation simplistic? He was providing a way to conduct an experiment to illustrate evolution; not to sound like a total bastard, but did you understand the explanation?

I was actually referring to me, because I was questioning if you understood Rrhain's explanation. It does not sound like you do understand.
Good luck and god bless!

I am going back a few posts, to post 26.
Your modified challenge lists the following stipulations: (lol) LOL LOLThe point is, Rrhain and other have stated that they have performed these very actions. In post 29, you state that ; why? How does biologicial evolution even factor in with your challenge (as Lam pointed out post30)? My guess is that you were not expecting so many unbelievers to say that they did try, and were let down. So you then attempted to sway the subject by attacking ToE. After your refutations were answered, you respond as if you are not hearing.Further, in post 26, you said: How does one PREACH science? Is it possible that you think that science is a religion? (Note the sarcasm, sorry )

Dude......lol!
That deserves a spin-off topic!

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***writes down next to Stephen's "farting out demons" quote***

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I beg, please provide the forum/topic where that was said. No one will believe it unless I provide some kind of link.
Thanks in advance!edited to include quoteThis message has been edited by MonkeyBoy, 05-13-2004 01:59 PM

I, through faith only, have found what I believe to be god, yet I am not aware of demons, devils or angels. Are you using the bible's definition of those things? If so, I do not believe in the validity of the bible, and I'm quite sure that the others that don't believe in 'it' are convinced that demons, etc. exist. What does this mean? Are you being attacked by the devil? The Prince of Darkness personally attacks you? Wow, I find that hard to believe, even more than if the devil does exist. As far as prayer helping you, wasn't Job tormented by the devil because the biblical god allowed it? So, are these demons or devils sent by the biblical god to see if you'll ask him to stop sending them?
What about all the innocent people that have asked their god to protect them, only to find their prayers are unanswered? Why does the biblical god answer your prayers for protection, while other's prayers are ignored?Sorry for so many questions, but I am curious.