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Author Topic:   Here be my problem with "God"
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Message 19 of 106 (69197)
11-25-2003 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Zealot
11-25-2003 7:41 AM


Zealot writes:
You are not saved by deeds Rand.
Oh, so you must not be a Christian but instead a Paulist. No surprise, really, though it has always confused me why people who call themselves Christian adhere so strongly to the words of a man who had never even met Christ.
I believe it is in Matthew 25 where Jesus describes the necessary and sufficient conditions for entering heaven - and He never mentions faith or grace. He says that one will be counted amongst the sheep if he has fed the hungry, visited the sick, clothed the naked, etc... and a person without those good works will be counted amongst the goats, instructed to depart from Him into the eternal fire.
Sounds pretty much like His decision is based on one's deeds, else why wouldn't he have mentioned faith?
Zealot writes:
Find me a man that does not sin.
Here I am!

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Message 49 of 106 (79871)
01-21-2004 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Angeldust
01-21-2004 5:19 PM


Angeldust writes:
Since everyone has a father, everyone received the sin nature before they were even born. Jesus did not have an earthly father, only an earthly mother so he was born without the sin nature.
If we cloned a female human, why would or wouldn't she (the clone) have a sin nature?
Mary's DNA wouldn't be tainted because only the Father passes down the sin nature.
Are you saying that females do not have a sin nature? If this is not your assertion, please explain how a female can have a sin nature that you believe to be coded for only in the Y chromosome.

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