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IrishRockhound
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Message 70 of 106 (86631)
02-16-2004 9:15 AM


Hmmm. A thought has occurred to me, with all this stuff about sin and whatnot - does any source other than the bible say that humans are inherently sinful?
That always annoyed me about Christianity - it sounds so much like a device for controlling people's behaviour, like "don't sin or you won't get into heaven". I say that humans are equally predisposed to be loving and caring.

"How can I believe in God? I answer to a higher power than him."

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IrishRockhound
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Message 75 of 106 (86926)
02-17-2004 7:07 AM
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02-16-2004 9:34 AM


quote:
Sin by definition is any thought that exalts itself above the living God. Kinda like your last quote,there Irish!
What, my sig?
Honestly, I couldn't care less. I don't worship the Christian god, so whether he or his followers think I'm a sinner means very little to me. As far as I'm concerned, sin is just something made up by Christianity - part of the whole controlling thing. I don't think that there's any reason to assume that people are essentially bad other than the fact that the bible says so.
I don't really mean that people have a predisposition - just that if you are to assume that people are fundamentally bad, it is equally valid to assume that they are fundamentally good, and only the fact that bible has something to say on the matter is influencing which assumption you choose to make.
The Rock Hound

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IrishRockhound
Member (Idle past 4467 days)
Posts: 569
From: Ireland
Joined: 05-19-2003


Message 83 of 106 (87051)
02-17-2004 3:04 PM
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02-17-2004 7:50 AM


Re: Christianity is Not my definition!
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It is one thing to define right and wrong as they are. It is another thing to define right and wrong as one sees them.
Same thing. Morality is always relative; what one person considers wrong will certainly differ from another person's perspective. I don't like the way that certain acts are defined as 'sins', and if I do them then I am a 'sinner', as if a priest has the last word on my moral compass. I follow my own morality, so the terms are largely meaningless to me.
quote:
Out of curiousity, Irish...which god do you worship?
I'm not talking about it.
The Rock Hound

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