God & the Fairy Tree

Fascinating, having researched the Leningrad Codex several years ago, I have not come across any of the issues you mention in your response. Perhaps you would do better with an older more direct source to evaluate. I will restate my comment to help clarify, "I believe, that someday, we will have the capacity to validate God's claim to creation."

I know what your feeling and unfortunately, the statement is already in its simplest form. We can however, deny the claim. But denying the result of creation(evidence) is not an option since we already acknowledge we exist.When we do try to elude this claim, we are left with this level of reasoning. - Sorry but that is evidence of nothing except that we exist. Far greater people have struggled with this issue for far longer than we will ever know. To date they have found no way to preclude this statement. Why would I try to support a claim which I have no implications with?

The onus is not on me to prove anything. I can assert my own position to the initial claim that God created all things, but beyond that, the claim was stated and the evidence has been accounted for. As frustrations mount under the strain of this argument, it should be noted that "some of us" will struggle with the implications. While I did raise the subject, I did not write the claim, nor did I ever take the responsibility for it. However, the claim was made, and the evidence is accounted for. And I stress, it is... what it is, and despite our best efforts we remain unable to transform it.It is sheer arrogance which drives us to the edge of such problems. In the past, great minds, people of fame, which have laid the foundations of science have struggled with this very same statement. Don't feel bad or battered over this, you are not alone.We can openly reject the claim without challenging it. I doubt this would amount to a resolution but it does remain an option nonetheless. Edited by pbee, : typosEdited by AdminPD, : Warning

You are way ahead of yourself with this line of reasoning. The claim was that God created all things. It was found written in a stone tablet. I have "NOT" seen it myself, however I did not write it nor did I make the claim that I created all things in existence...The rest of your post was residual to this statement. Edited by pbee, : No reason given.Edited by pbee, : No reason given.Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

Just as you replied I saw this typo "I did NOT see it myself, however.... " - it has been repaired now.I stress(again)...I never claimed anything. I pointed out that all things known to us have been claimed by God. This is a well known claim which has been recorded and made available to us throughout history. The debate was never whether or not "I could logically prove" this statement. I would be forced to say I don't truly care.Your right, an evolutionists could support his or her claim to evolution, however he would not be claiming anything beyond having the knowledge and understanding of the process of evolution. There is a substantial difference between the claim to having made all matter and the understanding of what is and how it came to be.Darwin's work is in no way comparable to God's claims on creation as does evolution for that matter.We have spent considerable time swarming about in the cloud of the initial statement. If anyone wants to contest "The Claim" made by God then so be it. I would be more than happy to share my own research to that effect. However, we will not come to any conclusions within the scope of this thread. Edited by pbee, : No reason given.Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

I would be very interested in discussing this matter but as I mentioned in my previous post, this specific topic has already gone to far. If you are up to the task, then spawn a new discussion and it could be managed properly.