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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Crashfrog writes: What does atheism have to do with any of those guys? Hitler was Lutheran and had the support of the Catholic Church in his mission against Jews; Stalin had a degree from a seminary and certainly enacted plenty of religious doctrine of his own. Pol Pot was the leader of a religious agrarian crusade, and Mao Tse-Tung led a communist revolution. None of those figures led an atheist crusade; they simply attacked the local religion out of competition for power. Hilter did nothing that could be described as "atheist", he regularly cited the approval of God for his attacks on Jews. First of all, it is very relevant to point out that Crashfrog is a rabid Atheist. Next, his commentary presupposes that Hitler, that is Adolf Hitler was telling the truth when he claimed to be a Christian. Why would anyone believe Hitler? Why would anyone want to believe someone who murdered tens of millions of persons? Hitler's actions say he was an Atheist. Again, when we remember that Crashfrog is an Atheist attempting to slander his ancient enemy (= Christianity) then it is understood as to why he "believes Hitler." Intelligent and honest persons know that Hitler was an Atheist, as were the communists who murdered over 100 million persons in the 20th century. How ironic that the moment Atheist-Darwinists-Marxists came to power they selected their opponents for extinction. Atheist-communist-evolutionists have murdered more persons in the 20th century than were murdered previously in history. How could an "intelligent and honest Atheist" like Crashfrog believe that these communists were not Atheists? Since there are persons who deny the Holocaust we should not be surprised. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Not relevant at all to point out. On the following grounds SNIP.... Objective persons know it is very logical to point out that the person who believes Hitler (Crashfrog) is a rabid Atheist.
[Hitler] was also a compulsive liar who exhibited wildly delusional thinking under stress. Then you agree: when he claimed to be a Christian he was lying?
Hanging any label on him such as 'Christian' or 'atheist' and thinking you've summed it up is colossally ignorant. Then Crashfrog, your comrade in Atheism, is ignorant? Objective and honest persons know that "since we are modified apes" the person who selected his enemies for extinction, and murdered millions of persons, was an Atheist-evolutionist. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Hitler was not a Atheist. Try to keep that in mind... Millions of persons murdered in the most horrifying ways possible says he was indeed an Atheist.
Your moronic attempt to compare Crashfrog to Hitler is just stupid and immature. How do we explain such a brazen and vicious misrepresentation? When Crashfrog said that he believed Hitler's claim of being a Christian, in response, I explained Crashfrog's belief by reminding the Group that he was a rabid Atheist. This explains why Crashfrog believes a mass murderer. Apparently, Iceage, after reading the exchanges saw no way to harm or defeat the logic of explaining Crashfrog's belief by pointing out his Atheism. But being angered by said logic and argument Iceage, in response, relied upon gross misrepresentation. Therefore the degree of misrepresentation employed is in direct ratio equal to the degree that said logic and argument was perceived to be true and invulnerable to refutation - that is why said misrepresentation was employed and how we explain its existence. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Millions of Jews murdered in horrific ways says that he was indeed a Christian. The Holocaust was a sectarian conflict. Hitler murdered many Protestants and Catholics too. But it appears that you have misunderstood my criticism. I simply explain the fact that you believe a mass murderer when he claimed to be a Christian by pointing out that you are an Atheist. Nobody in their right mind would believe anything that Hitler said. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
And you are a christian zealot which explains why you deny Hitler's christianity. I am a zealous Christian just as much as you are a zealous Atheist and evolutionist. How do we explain persons who believe Hitler? Like I said: persons who believe Hitler told the truth when he claimed to be a Christian, in these exchanges, are Atheist-evolutionists. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
So when Stalin says that he was an atheist, you believe that he was a Christian? My identification that Hitler was an Atheist is based on the fact that he was a mass murderer, and based on this fact, we conclude that he was also a liar. Objective persons know for a fact that Stalin was a communist and, of course, an Atheist. His Atheism, like Hitler's, is confirmed by the fact that he was also a mass murderer. Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
By noting that Hitler sometimes did tell the truth. How do you confirm or corroborate Hitler's claim of being a Christian? We conclude the claim is false based on millions of murdered persons. But let the record reflect that you believe Hitler. Your belief is explained by the fact that you are an Atheist-evolutionist. Charles Darwin had a degree in theology (BA, Christ's College, 1831, tenth in class of students not competing for honors). Was Darwin a theologian? Ray
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
All of Hitler's speeches contain religious overtones. Mein Kampf is even more direct: You have misunderstood. Nobody denies his "religious fervor." We are attempting to verify its validity.
He was visited multiple times by the Pope himself This comment says anyone the Pope gives audience to is a Christian.
and his actions were condoned by the Church His actions were protested by the Church to no avail.
And you don't know anything about history Since you believe Hitler, I am relieved and complimented. Your approval of my historical knowledge would have made me like you said. Ray
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