Politcally Correct Christ

Nope. And no new letters. Its not a verb though (actually it can be - but not in the sense meant here)Edited by iano, : No reason given.

You are smart - but that's not it and no new letter. I'm off home and will check there. But whilst I ride there: its something that everyone of us does - usually once a day{AbE} you do remember it is an exclamation don't you?Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Got it in one. Well spotted Kuresu More properly: "Oh shit, I'm screwed!"

This would be making a god in ones own image and likeness - just like the Jews did with their golden calf. Nothing new in that either.

Like the gospel, the light dawns gradually. But there is a moment where you go "Aha!"Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Not at all. A person holds a gun to your head. He says to you "see Big Ben? If you jump from ground level to the top of Big Ben unaided by any device I won't kill you" In saying this to you he will (assuming a normal reaction on your part) evoke a certain response in you. Kuresu managed to get it. That is the purpose: to evoke that response. You can think what you like about it but purpose it most certainly has. And that's it. "Shit!" No sizzling under the fire for Iano? I am honoured. I figured I'd get the same treatment as Jar. How do you interpret "the law is a schoolteacher to lead you to Christ" then? Cry "shit!" sometime and look at your options then. If convinced (as that post posited) then you will have no other option. God is the only one to turn to. He, unlike us, is not proud. He doesn't mind being PaddyLast so long as you come to him. No, but it heartens him immensely to hear people cry "Shit!" Their end is nigh (in the best sense of the word 'end' imaginable) Write in haste, repent at leisure Correct. Or more technically; I am going to heaven because I am in Christ (as opposed to remaining as I was born - in Adam) See above - no being a good person involved. In Christ...alone. I did nothing to earn or deserve being put there. You could be too as could anyone. It would be a condition were it possible for me to do anything to be made a Christian or do anything to result my being put into Christ. Thing is Briano, I didn't make me a Christian - He did.There is a condition thus: God has to make you a Christian.Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Robin. You have annoyed the Jello your trying to nail to a wall{abe: whenever you see a LOL you can be certain that this is what you have done){abe: I wonder why you never seem to try and nail me to a wall. You always seem to back off at critical moments. Getting some practice in?}Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.

That could be read as spoiling for whatever fights-a-going. You (as well as I) know that what is being said by Jar is ridiculous - yet you try to pin him down. You know already you will retire frustrated from the weaving and dodging or your attempts will be followed by a thread end ( as this one is on course for) or a ban/rebuke when his mates step into the ring with some legalistic nonsense. You know all this...Yet you seem more content to exchange punches in Alice-in-Wonderland rather than get down to the nitty-gritty (albeit it, on first flush.. the greyer world) of real world.Jar and all that Jazz is simply temptation. It leads nowhere, resolves nothing. You have read The Screwtape Letters I presume? I had the audio book version where John Cleese (of Fawlty Towers fame) read.In describing Satans use of drugs as a tool of choice he illustrated as follows. The hook goes in and in the beginning there is pleaure only (much like I imagine drink and very much like I know dope). Bit by bit the pleasure (the intellectual jousting of EvC) is removed and all you are left with is the addiction - stripped of any pleasure. John Cleese gives a wicked cackle at this point in the audio book.Its like the pitcher plant. First the fly is attracted by the sweet nectar then after a while it 'realises' that the sweet nectar is actually the digestive juices of the plant. It started out as the the fly eating the plant then, imperceptibly things shifted and it was the the plant eating the fly.Such is Jar. Forget it. It only involves swallowing pride. Only...Heh

Get a sense of humor will you? I break the law all day long except when I sleep (although one might argue about that too... if inclined) The law is summed up in two commandments so the specifics of any particular law is rendered within those two. Hardly. Jar considers law abiding (or rather; trying to law abide) as relevant to eternal destination. I do not. If amazed then argue it rather that assert it. Reading is clearly not your strong suit. But then again, you are relatively new here. In speaking to those I know, I assume an idea of where I am coming from. I will start from scratch for your benefit should you desire. Where would you like to get a toe in? You do realise you have said nothing concrete in this post. All assertion and no content. Archer... shoot straightEdited by iano, : No reason given.

SCHRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAF. We got a gusher here!!! (in joke)Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Go on...

What the intent of the gunman is open to question. What we can conclude is that one result occurred from his action. "Shit!". Now if this was the intent of the gunman then his purpose has been achieved. If "shit!" can be used as a catalyst for a chain reaction then it could be a very good purpose indeed.It is not possible to follow the commandment in practice you will find. Theoretically perhaps - but not practically. Put it this way. No one ever has (bar one) Perhaps - but the analogy pointed back to the premise of the post initialising the "Shit!" game. The person has been convinced of the things contained within. If you were convinced that lawbreaking would result in eternal fire and that you were convinced also that you were unable to keep the law then you only reaction would be "shit!". Not all the other posturing. All other posturing is that of one who is not convinced of those things. I meant no sizzling under the fire in the sense of your ducking out by saying you have an other interpretion. I expected mine would suffer some of your rigor. I see no threat in that statment. Its a declaration as to purpose of law. One which I have been elaborating on with you. If the law does its work then "shit!" will be pressed out of a man as "squeak!" is pressed out of a rubber duck who has been run over by a lorry. Mission accomplished. Because if you had any option but him then your "shit!" didn't start with a capital S. I should have stressed than then. Typo. Correct. I lacked righteousness. And was just convinced of that fact. The gospel is only good news for bad people who are convinced they are bad. It is not good news for bad people who still think they are good. Your forgetting the purpose of the law again. He will always be the last port of call - we will all wander in the desert before reaching the promised land (assuming we do). He is the last port of call, but if called upon then he becomes first. There are no conditions. Did a duck who was run over by the lorry of the law and squeaked fulfill any conditions? Or was it the lorry who did the work? The law does the work. Our very own sin is the fuel that keeps it going. We are the object on which this work is being carried out. There are no conditions to be fulfilled by us. We do nothing at all. I did something. I squeaked... I spent 38 years on the outside Brian. I saw all I could stomach. Squeak!Its a gift Brian. No earning involved. Every single person on the planet will be saved unless they reject salvation. We can do nothing to earn or enable or contribute to our salvation. We can only earn, enable and contribute to our damnation. "The wages of sin is death - (a wage (damnation) is something earned). But the gift of God is eternal life IN Christ Jesus" Love my neighbour. Anytime I do not I am not following the command. And not following it even once results in damnation. 1 sin is 1 too many. Dunno - he saw a little

More love and concern and a horror at the consequences for you should you remain as you are. There is very little sense of duty involved. Its quite enjoyable in fact. Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Yes I did. And they still are "All day long I have held out my hands to a wicked and disobedient people" he says. You did. If a rubber duck gets run over by a lorry and it squeaks has the rubber duck done anything? He has squeaked (accepted the blood sacrifice) but he did not do anything. The truck did. Unless the truck runs over him he will never squeak. There is no condition that we can fulfill. All we can do is avoid the truck running over us. In doing so we do all that is necessary in order for us to be damned. Damned is the only thing we have a part to play in. We can fulfill all the conditions involved in that. Nope. Either a person is a Christian who has backslidden. This does not unmake them a Christian. To heaven they will go. Or a person was never a Christian in the first place - they probably had Religion. Brian says he was once a Christian but he has (despite his obvious knowledge) no clue at all about the mechanism of salvation. Not a clue. I doubt he ever was a Christian.