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Legend
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Message 141 of 202 (252761)
10-18-2005 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by iano
10-18-2005 1:12 PM


Re: Ransom to the Devil
iano writes:
What about the defendant? Aren't we forgetting him here?
If he doesn't want any of this waiving business. He has got every right to stand up and say "hang on a second - I don't agree with any of this lark. Waiving implies I'm guilty but being let off. I don't agree with the decision of the court. I won't tolerate it - I'm innocent. You can shove your waiving. Its declared innocent or nothing"
What then?
But forgiveness has nothing to do with the offender! It is the sole prerogative of the offended party and theirs only
It doesn't matter if the offender agrees, rejects or is calling you names.
If you forgive, you forgive. Period. You said so yourself.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
Member (Idle past 5037 days)
Posts: 1226
From: Wales, UK
Joined: 05-07-2004


Message 150 of 202 (252805)
10-18-2005 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by iano
10-18-2005 2:06 PM


Re: Ransom to the Devil
Legend writes:
But forgiveness has nothing to do with the offender! It is the sole prerogative of the offended party and theirs only... If you forgive, you forgive. Period. You said so yourself.
iano writes:
Absolutely. And if you don't forgive you don't. The persons perogative too. The person may chose to punish instead
But I thought you said God had forgiven us ?!
Are you now saying he's punishing us ?
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This message has been edited by Legend, 10-18-2005 03:24 PM

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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