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Author Topic:   Is belief in God madness in a modern world?
Phat
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Message 2 of 90 (372520)
12-28-2006 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Rob
12-28-2006 9:13 AM


What did Anglagard mean, in your opinion?
Here is the full text of anglagards statement:
Anglagard writes:
I think it is obvious that no one has shown that morality, subjective as it may be, is decreasing with time. Instead, my contention that morality is actually increasing with time appears to hold when one considers some general concensus definitons of morality during the overall history of the entire earth.
What concerns me is the apparent desire that morality is or should be decreasing on the part of some supposed Christians, so that they can force the modern world to fit their interpretation of the Bible. Let us pray that these proponents of modern immorality do not act upon their desires.
I believe this exercise shows the tremendous lengths a few here will go to force history to conform to their belief system regardless of any semblance to reality. IMO, such behavior may resemble a form of mental disorder.
You respond by saying:
scottness writes:
I will show that his is a logically incoherent statement.
OK...the ball is in your court.
One thing that I might point out, though, is that there is no direct correlation between morality and a belief in God. Some of us have argued that it is only through Gods influence that morality even exists...but there have been many moral people who had no outward sign of belief.
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Phat
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Message 6 of 90 (372529)
12-28-2006 10:00 AM
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12-28-2006 9:54 AM


Absolute Certainty
I always thought that the definition of object was a belief arising from a source apart from ourselves whereas subjective meant that the belief was entirely of our own nature. Maybe we need to nail these definitions before we can make heads or tails of morality and absolutes.

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Message 30 of 90 (372861)
12-29-2006 9:45 PM
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12-28-2006 9:53 AM


Johnny Be Good
Are you saying that all goodness must originate from God and that no one has the inner ability to choose to do good apart from God?

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