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EZscience
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Message 60 of 114 (212008)
05-27-2005 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by NosyNed
05-26-2005 10:44 AM


Re: Differing degrees of Certainty
Ned writes:
Because what actually unfolds in the very messy, complex real world is enormously contingent the theory can not usually be used to predict exactly what will occur.
I think this is possibly one cause of intrinsic human 'dissatisfaction' with the theory of evolution. Evolution is a highly contingent process and would never play out the same way twice, making exact predictions very tenuous in comparison to the physical sciences.
At the same time, valid methods of inference are well developed to infer *retrospectively* exactly what did happen in evolutionary history, but these inferences are mistrusted by the uneducated in the absence of some evidence of 'precise' predictability.

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EZscience
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Message 61 of 114 (212010)
05-27-2005 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by randman
05-27-2005 6:08 PM


You know, you guys are all down to splitting hairs at this point.
"micro ev. - yes", "macro ev. - no". Give me a break.
Individual genotypes are destroyed every generation only to recombine as new gentoypes in the next (in sexual populations) so novel individual genotypes are inevitably formed (your 'microevolution').
On the larger scale, populations diverge and separate so that new species eventually separate and subsequently diverge even further.
All this you guys seem to accept, and yet the idea that higher level taxa could diverge even further apart - completely unacceptable !?

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