Mike writes:
You are a prime example of this modern mindset I spoke about.
Mike, I am glad you put me into the "modern mindset" category vice the biblical & Dark Ages mentality of killing non-believing infidels and anyone who disagrees with your religious worldview. Thankfully we have enough intelligent people (nonreligious and religious) that can see through your facad of hypocricy, irrationality, religious extemism and stupidity and push forward free thinking, equal rights, technology, morality, and science.
Mike writes:
Don't you see that judging God according to what you think, as a man from the dust, IS SIN.
I am actually not judging your god. I am judging you and your moral hypocrictical system that you base on a 2000+ year old book. I don't believe in your god. So I really don't personally care what you believe. You could believe that a purple unicorns runs the universe. I could care less. However what I do care about is when you get on your religious, self-righteous high-horse and push your twisted form of morality down other people's throats and push it in the public forums and into our secular government and schools, than I AM going to call you on it and say it for what it is.
Mike writes:
Can't you see the problem
logically? you are supposed to be the rational one.
We can go around and around all day about who is the most rational and logical. I am getting off your demented merry go round.
Mike writes:
Think about it. The bible says that to question God is sin.Job was told to "curse God and die"....but he never in his suffering, thought he knew better than God...For my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts. For God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. And another scripture is "for God is not a man that he can lie"....If God says He is righteous, and His word is true, then he can't lie and say he is righteous when he is not.
And we should believe your religious book why? Why not believe in Dianetics or the Book of Mormon? Why not the Qu'ran?
Mike writes:
Your problem is that your own morals REQUIRE that you sin against God by speaking falsely against him, or WORSE - from ignorance.
Whatever floats your boat.
Morality are rules and standards of how people should act towards each other and the world they live in to make our lives easier to get along with each other and affords everyone equal rights (and responsibilities). Nothing more, nothing less.
Besides, how does this get God off the hook if he breaks his own rules? How can God say do not murder and then command the bloody murder of entire cities and villages of tens of thousands of people including innocent children and babies?
I am in the Navy and am a father, how would it look to my Sailors or to my child if I layed out rules for them to follow and blatantly violated them myself. It would undermine my authority and I would not have a leg to stand on to ask them to follow any future instructions/orders. Lead from the front is what the military advocates. You cannot effectively lead if you are not following your own instructions. Yet you are advocating a policy of "do as I say, not as I do" with your god just because some book of antiquity tells you to. Who is being irrational?
You are asking me to believe that your "god" because the Bible says he is divine. However, he can violate his own commandments he has given humanity and we have no recourse to call him on it? Is that what you are advocating?
Mike writes:
If God says He is righteous, and His word is true, then
he can't lie and say he is righteous when he is not
Ok, so are you saying God is not righteous?
Mike writes:
See the contradiction yet?
No. There is no contradiction. You statements are not even coherent. If I don't believe in your book and your god then how can it be a contradiction to not believe in your system of morality?
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.Dr. Carl Sagan